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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    It really does seem something so pointless that you have to wonder did Eamon Ryan and co come up with it? Of all the things that you could think about spending anything on, this is not it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If they are that rarely used and suitable for ceremonies, why not just use the Rolls to haul the coffin? It’s already immaculate, beautiful and with history. And they can apparently keep it running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Spoke to someone in the motor trade re this…they reckoned that €20K each would give you a really good electric engine conversion - it would be top notch!

    I sincerely hope that someone credible gets in touch with the powers that be, and asks them to look again…..

    BTW, anyone know anything about bike sheds…or large volume printers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The Rolls might be a runner, but you couldn't call it reliable.

    Especially not to tow a gun carriage at low speed for perhaps several miles. It would almost certainly overheat, or jam in gear, or lock a brake, and cause all sorts of embarrassment.

    I personally don't see any issue towing a funeral gun carriage with a utility Land Cruiser that has been suitably polished up, but if they're insistent on a flat bed to accommodate the gimbel for the gun carriage tow beam, why not just get a few Hiluxes done in gloss drab green and blacked out bright work. Perfectly dignified.

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    Existing Defender 110 bearing the remains of Pte Sean Rooney, RIP

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    Current Toyota Hilux commercial model, basic spec

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    Czech Army Toyota Hilux

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    Irish Army Land Cruiser J150 utility 4x4

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    Irish Army Military Police Ford Ranger 4x4 utility, unmarked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭blindsider


    There are 2 specialist vehicle conversion companies in Offaly….google it.

    I presume they've been contacted…?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Why would you presume that, its a public tender?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Interesting article on the thinking of future RN amphibious assault ships.

    Obviously a very different animal to Irish Navy requirements, but notable all the same for the general direction of MRV and MRSS design solutions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Me own thoughts exactly. Something along those lines but not as big and hefty could be a bit handy..…very versatile 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Is it a developmental budget ?

    There are several companies in the UK that do land rover electric conversions ,or provide kits ,

    And to do it properly properly is not all that cheap, but 300k sounds bonkers

    Also ,you can't really leave EVs without charge for long periods, cos the batteries will drain down and eventually not take a charge..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,949 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Are landcruiser pickups still available ?

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Thats actually a very fair point about the EV batteries. They are absolutely the worse solution for infrequent use.

    Yes, there are Land Cruiser J70 pickups available in markets outside Europe, built for places like Africa and the Australian Outback, but they are basically unchanged since 1984 and are made with older, simpler, diesel engines to allow for cheap DIY maintenance in remote places, and so they don't nearly meet EU emissions requirements and are as noisy as all hell.

    Believe it or not, this is a 2025 Australian market model.

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    Although, Babcock UK did put forward a bespoke J70 as a General Service Utility Vehicle for the British Army not long ago, and I think they're fantastic. But maybe not for towing gun carriages in solemn procession.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭blindsider


    Because the DF have relationships with both and they would be able to provide some pre-tender information e.g. "Can this be done?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Ireland is to sign on to the SAFE initiative, wait for the wailing and screaming

    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2025/0627/1520586-ireland-defence-systems/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its certainly the best way to do all this, a complete snow job on the tankies by coming at them with Triple Lock, spending and new associations all at the same time. They barely have the resources to come back on one, so they can't cope with multiple fronts at all.

    What can Ireland get out of SAFE in practical terms? The processes for primary multi-domain radar and towed sonar are already well advanced.

    Perhaps some better anti-drone tech and two dozen self-propelled 155mm Howitzers on the Christmas list?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Notmything


    The Irish Times mentions artillery, cyber, air defence, and APCS as where the focus will be.

    This will hopefully be a win-win. The army gets access to better equipment at a lower cost base, and the crusties get all worked up over nothing.

    The fact that 65% of any purchase has to come from EU countries/Ukraine also means means our EU colleagues will get a chance to see first hand if our free loading days are coming to an end.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Agree.

    And I do hope all that the message goes back to American makers that these hundreds of billions will absolutely be invested with European makers, whenever possible. And that if they feel they are losing out on a possible bonanza of new sales, that they can go and blame their president for this disgusting attitude to their partners and allies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    i dont think there will be wailing and screaming. Nobody cares what they say and if the people of this country did care it would be shown in who we the people elect.

    There kind get far to much attention as they do not repersent the majority of the people in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Paul Murphy out of the blocks already.

    €150 billion, no doubt he means The EU as a whole, but wonder if his supporters will pick up on the difference.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    No doubt? No.

    I think he is being very deliberately ambiguous, to anger people who don't know any better.

    Thankfully, people who DO know better are slaughtering him on social media for it.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,067 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    US manufacturers aren't doing a much better job of keeping up with demandas it is. Foreign miltary sales the last two years have more than doubled and exceeded $40bn, so far this year they're over $20bn (If you include services contracts, the figures double). Some lines have orders for years to come. There's debate, for example, in the US over the US reducing its AMRAAM purchases... but at current production, the line will be at full capacity for the next six years on export sales only.

    The sale of major end items is maintaining generally constant. Few people are buying US built ships, for example, but almost nobody ever does, almost everyone is buying F35 if allowed just as they always have. The big winners are the Koreans, who are willing to put export production ahead of their own, and the ammunition manufacturers, who are booming because suddenly Europe has discovered that magazine depth is a thing... and ammo for European militaries is generally produced in Europe anyway.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Its behind the paywall on the Sunday Times but basically a "we aren't capable or ready for war, and its all the fault of the DOD and DF General Staff" with the Part Time Minister trying to "drive things on"…

    https://archive.ph/PRYrV



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Editorial or contributor? Although it doesn't matter much, I suppose.

    Whoever is suggesting we should be on a track to a war footing is stupid though. Completely unhelpful and sensationalist bullsh1t.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    So comments in the Business Post that the IDA is looking to set up a fab at the Oranmore firing range, wonder did anyone even think about the impact on the DF?

    I think we all know they didn't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Sure intel were going to create 10000 jobs on the same site a few years ago!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    It's basically the same planned development, looking for a tenant, but I'm fairly sure the IDA isn't going to pay for the DF to get a replacement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    To be fair, the range at Oranmore is absolutely nothing special.

    Every facility there could be replicated elsewhere with about a week's construction work.

    If there's a chance of a massive investment and employment boon at Oranmore they should put absolutely everything behind it. The range site was going to get swallowed up by the expanding town anyway, or at least become too dangerous to be practical in proximity to homes and streets.

    But an early stipulation should be the identification and construction of a replacement range, before anything is progressed re the technology plant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    A bit of multi agency excitement was had by the sound of things.

    Though it does beg the question; with such scant resources, how many of these landings are succeeding undetected?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    And it was almost an unfair fight at the Defence and National Security Committee yesterday, when the folly of the Triple Lock and the sclerosis of the UNSC was evidenced by, among others, retired DCoS Ops Maj Gen Kieran Brennan, retired Deputy Military Advisor, UN Peace Ops, Maj Gen Maureen O'Brien, retired Head of the DF UN Training School, Director of the Military College and envoy of the Chair of the FYR Peace Conference, Col. Colm Doyle and retired 2IC Ireland SOF and former TD, Cmndt Dr. Cathal Berry.

    Good luck with that tankies!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭sparky42


    It seems it's not just Europe and America that's asking questions about our lack of capabilities:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2025/07/02/japan-expresses-concern-over-security-of-subsea-cables-off-the-irish-coast/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,918 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    "Hey Tojo, good man, would you ever plant a few questions about undersea cables and cyber security when I'm over for the dinner"

    "What? Where?"

    "In Ireland. Or off the Irish coast at any rate. It would really help me out dealing with the troublesome tankies!"

    "But Martin-san, I haven't the slightest knowledge or interest about those things. And neither do the people of Japan".

    "Ah go on, go on. Ya will, ya will. There's a nice bottle of Midleton Forêt de Tronçais in it for you?!"

    "Why you not say so?! Hai!"



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