Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

Prominent Irish economists like David McWilliams and Professor Dan O’Brien saying inward movement needs to be slowed until we get on top of our capacity issues, but no you still have people in here claiming it can’t happen or the economy will spontaneously combust.

This is just commonsense, anyone who isn’t ideologically biased knows this, but so many are deeply, almost invincibly biased.

Is there any proof this was due to toxic masculinity? Or that it contributed at all?

This horrible incident was weaponised way before people were aware Puskas did it.

Robbery/burglary, dealing drugs, possession of drugs, damage to property, intimidation of others, assault, etc ….. take your pick ….. and in some severe cases rape, murder and belonging to a terrorist group ….. obviously whatever crime they are doing and they are doing it all blatantly and are afraid of no one ….. because there is no one apart from their own kind they are afraid of !!! …. I am sick of seeing lowlife Irish s..m geting suspended sentences or prison sentences of under 3 years despite they being as guilty as hell ….. and then they can operate freely and are not afraid of anyone ….. I overheard drug dealers on public transport on the phone organising drug deals ….. I saw drunks shouting and roaring on trains and frightening people ….. some focusing on migrants some just full of anger and threatening anyone in their path ….. I have seen such types on buses threatening the driver when they are told to stop ….. and all of these people I notice are Irish ….. the non nationals that I see on trains and buses sit down quietly and mind their own business ……

All anecdotal and bigoted comments to boot..This thread is going downhill.

Full of whataboutery,Anti Irish bigotry,and classist anecdotes.

Come visit me where I live and ill show you who causes all the problems around here, all the bloody time. And it isn't the folks in the IPAS centre nearby. And this isn't me promoting open borders either by the way.

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No I am not self hating ….. I hate criminals and I do not care what nationality they are ….. I am on the side of the victim ….. and if you cannot see that then you are on the side of the criminal …..

All that I see anyway, anyone who lives in and around the north inner city will attest to this. And yes I know foreigners commit crime here too but nothing on the scale of locals.

So is that on the EU? Like if I get a criminal record can I still go and live in Spain? Never understood how this worked but we all know there are plenty of Irish criminals in Spain.

I see what I see ….. I did not call Irish people low lif s..m ….. I called native Irish criminals that …… that is a very different thing than saying I called Irish people that …… most Irish people are decent and good ….. but when out and about I never witnessed non nationals acting in any other way than impeccable ….. same goes for 99% of Irish people ….. but get on a bus or a train and esp the Luas and you will see what I am talking about …. this is Ireland so probability is you will find more of the domestic population doing crime than anyone else …. sure non national criminals exist too but most criminals here are native Irish ….

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The people too educated for lower paid jobs is clearly nonsense. We have too many people opting out of the workforce and also too many people taking early retirement. We also have far too many people who can work minimum hours and get by due to state benefits or because our progressive tax system is just too progressive. And conversely, our marginal rate system disincentivises people to do gig work and the likes.

I do think there is a point to be made about low paid work which is essentially subsidised by the State. Someone over here on a short term visa working in a minimum wage job in retail and associated areas are working hard no doubt, but I am dubious about the net benefit to society (we could probably survive with less retail hours). In particular as our benefits basically sprawl out from the point of entry.

Puskas should never have been allowed leave Slovakia …… and I am all for barring criminals from settling into another person's country ….. this is very different to be anti-migrant ….. we should not have got Puskas anymore than Slovakia should get Quirke or Murphy ….. we do not need to import criminals from abroad and EU countries need to coordinate a response WRT criminals …….

The majority of criminals in Ireland are domestic Irish ….. but we do not want the likes of Puskas joining them ….. both types are lowlife we do not need and belong in jail …..

No anecdotes here ….. you are all on the same narrative ….. people twisting things ….. and putting words in my mouth that I never said …..

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Exactly ….. and for those wannabe academics here who say 'anecdotal' I am pretty sure looking up the court cases would prove this ….. the amount of Irish criminals getting suspended sentences and less than 3 years' jail time for major crimes can most certainly be backed up empirically for those who want that !!!!!!!! And in no way is it 'anti Irish' to condemn criminals ……. but some here try and twist it to say I called Irish people s..m when what I actually said was that Irish criminals are that ……. and go around Dublin and other cities/major towns afraid of no one except each other ………. I only have sympathy for the victims of crime and despise all criminals whether they are Irish or foreign ……. their act not nationality should determine what they are …… WRT Puskas …… he had convictions in Slovakia and that should have been passed on to Irish authorities ……. I presume Slovakia is also a country too soft on their criminals just like Ireland ??? …. prob left out again after a few years or suspended ….