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Getting around Galway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    More construction works for a Major Galway Road………………low and behold its Raleigh Row

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/galway/news/major-galway-road-closed-for-one-month-as-uisce-eireann-reminds-customers-of-ongoing-works/a1681392991.html

    There is something not right the way our local authority system works when one sees stuff like this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    EV HUB official opening was in Westside today

    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2025/0627/1520694-ev-charging-galway/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    How are they calling Raleigh Road a major road? It's closure is only going to affect residents.

    And Uisce Eireann has nothing to do with the local authority so not sure what they have to do with it either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    I could be wrong but don't think they'll put in a bus lane without a planned bus route and that's a TFI decision. So bit of a chicken and egg thing or at least bureaucracy/different groups with different aims.

    Not trying to say I don't agree but this is my take on the way of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    I honestly thought that must be a Galway Beo headline when I saw that it referred to Raleigh Row. The Indo has really gone downhill.

    A system like they have in some EU countries where planned digs have to be coordinated, so you don't get Uisce Eireann digging up a road just after it's had a complete renewal by the local authority, or where they have to lay shared conduits when doing a dig so the additional broadband capacity can be fed through later rather than requiring another dig, would be a real improvement here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,699 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The red-tops (Galway Beo, Cork Beo et al) have dragged everyone else down a bit to get clicks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    One of the reasons that the TFI consultants (from Canada) decided NOT to extend the core Galway City Spine route West of Gateway Retail Park on WDR is the poor permeability along it for access. Bus routes will continue to go up and down the Ballymoneen and Clybaun as a result. It's also a weakness of the GLUAS proposal along this corridor as well as this P&R proposal for Cappagh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭topcat77


    Implications for the ring road after the A5 ruling last week.

    RTE news : A5 ruling reverberates through Stormont and beyond

    http://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2025/0629/1520831-a5-analysis/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,679 ✭✭✭✭zell12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 G-bird


    Didn't they completely dig up that road last summer as part of the School Streets? Seems crazy they couldnt do it all at once?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭GBXI


    Major road? Is this not a small side street near the Crane Bar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    The Council did the job as one go. Then Uisce Eireann dug it up again to do some pipe works. Then the Council was involved in reinstating it. (If my memory isn't failing me.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,679 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    TD wants the 414 service restored - told to go to the NTA and ask https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2025-06-25a.86



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭topcat77


    A good article in the Advertiser by Peter Butler this week (Page 23).

    Just letting people know that I'm not anti or pro ring road.

    https://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/html5/reader/production/default.aspx?pubname=&pubid=a2fc81f2-0ccf-4dbf-aca1-00bedf4bde35



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Laviski


    ah more crap from another serial objector. wonder if they have a yearly thinkin's with others such as Peter sweetman…

    lets look at it, currently we have 4 road bridges of which only 3 are usable right now (o'brien's bridge is effectively a one way bridge due to pedestrianization) and in the future salmon weir bridge is going be bus only. So without the ring road we would be down to two bridges to cross a city…. madness.

    then there he goes and talks about a new bridge from newcastle(moycullen) road to link up with bother na treabh then another magically for parkmore but no ring road. sure that makes sense as the junction at menlo park hotel people complain about regularly and lets make it into a utter disaster of a junction than it already is.

    get real.

    galway has a lot of half measures we do not need any more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    Seriously time that state funding for An Taisce is reviewed. It’s one thing promoting heritage but it’s a whole other thing actively campaigning against stating government policy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    It's government policy to spend massive amounts of money on projects that are going to make the problem worse? I mean it does seem like it sometimes but didn't think they'd actually stated it outright

    Decent article. Gets a bit mealy mouthed towards the end but hits the major points about it making things worse not better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    @Laviski

    lets look at it, currently we have 4 road bridges of which only 3 are usable right now (o'brien's bridge is effectively a one way bridge due to pedestrianization) and in the future salmon weir bridge is going be bus only. So without the ring road we would be down to two bridges to cross a city…. madness.

    And there we have it. The term 'car brain' made the headlines in the national media recently and generated much chatter about whether the concept really exists or not. That post is definitive proof that it does exist.

    Having free flowing bus routes across the Salmon Weir Bridge is going to massively increase the capacity of that bridge to carry people from one side of the city to the other. Framing that as bringing us "down to two bridges to cross a city" betrays a massive blind spot to the idea of people moving around the city in anything other than a private car.

    It's as if the 20% of Galway households that don't have access to a car don't exist for this poster. And that's before you take into account the many more who live in households with cars but don't have regular access to one themselves. Most of the 7000 secondary school kids in the city and a big chunk of the 25000 university students would fall into that category. And there are also the people who do have cars but who would opt to use buses if they became fast and reliable rather than having to sit in traffic.

    To move people in a growing city you need to give them multiple viable transport options. Trying to keep the car as the only option condemns everyone to gridlock.

    (edited as quote didn't show up initially)

    Post edited by Unrealistic on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,679 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Used it earlier. They did a horrible job repatching the road surface



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭seanin4711


    everywhere in galway is dangerous for cycling as pi$s poor infrastructure if any!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Its ok - but tbh even though would agree in the main with the article I thought it was a bit muddled.

    Where is the 1% figure coming from? Would have been far safer to say less than 10% car traffic in 2025 is "bypass traffic"

    If An Taisce are suggesting a NEW Bridge as the article implied would at least expect to see a lot more detail on that.

    Am pretty sure space is not the issue for an article in the Advertiser.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    1% is from the latest submission by the 2 Galway Councils to An Bord Pleanala (or whatever it is called now). It was 3% in the previous submission but they did a new survey for the latest submission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    interesting. So that 1% now is from just West of Bearna going to beyond Oranmore and vice-versa. That was the old 3% figure for sure. This article was the first place I have seen this NEW 1% figure mentioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Laviski


    i guess you didn't read the advertiser article from that group that i was referring to and only quoting a section. they happy for a bridge but not the bypass. Happy for a new road for parkmore but not a bypass…..

    talk about Having their cake and eating it too….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Laviski


    if someone can show where you can find this data, i would like to read it and how they come with the 1%. unless they are using ANPR techology its BS.

    if they are basing their data on Pneumatic Road Tube Counter then the report based on assumptions from the data.but again someone show me where i can find the report cause i can't.

    HGV's, courier vehicles, vans etc most would not have depots west of the corrib. this is all centralized distribution and all this traffic would cross into the city to reach all the towns and villages out west daily. have the bypass would remove these vehicles would be great from an air quality and safety point of view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    I was taking issue with what you wrote, not what was in the article. You were the one who misrepresented a move to bus priority on the Salmon Weir Bridge as losing a bridge even though it will greatly increase capacity to move people across the city. You, and not the author of the article, displayed the narrowmindedness that cannot conceive of anyone moving around the city other than in a car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    This came up at the last round of public hearings and was explained there. They purchase anonymised mobile phone movement data from the phone companies. So it captures all vehicles entering and leaving the city, even if they are rat-running through Boleybeg or Menlo rather than using the main roads.

    This is from the official submission to ABP from the two local authorities trying to get the ring road over the line. They're hardly motivated to understate the bypass traffic now, are they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Laviski


    I’m simply highlighting the bottlenecks and the consequences of certain actions, like pedestrianization. Right now, we have three functional bridges for cross-river traffic. One of them is earmarked to become a bus-only lane under BusConnects, but realistically, I don’t see that happening until a new bridge is built.

    For the record, I’m not against existing pedestrianization or converting a bridge to a bus lane…far from it. In fact, I’d also support another dedicated bus lane over the Quincentennial Bridge, heading up Sean Mulvoy Road. But whatever route the service needs to be consistent and reliable. That doesn't mean buses every 10–15 minutes, just that people should be able to trust the service, seven days a week. That it will be there when they say it will, not early not late.

    The real issue right now is that the smallest incident grinds the whole city to a halt. One minor accident and the entire traffic map lights up red—main roads, side roads, rat runs. When that happens, BusConnects won’t be immune either, assuming if it ever gets completed. Emergency response times suffer, and people try to move out of the way but often they don’t know how to react or simply can’t think logically in the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Laviski




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    The data collection and analysis details are all in the reports GCC have published but you'll have to look yourself. I've been through them too many times but I think it was fairly easily found. It's how Unrealistic described but no harm looking for yourself to get a better understanding of how they approached



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