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Hamas strike on Israel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Randycove


    they haven’t sent any bombs to Israel.
    What would you like the UK to do? Issue a strongly worded statement? Support a motion at the UN Security Council calling for a cease fire?

    Post edited by Randycove on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Agreed, he and most of his cabinet are Zionists. Even Nigel Farage (grifter that he is) has more principles than Starmer….the guy is a charlatan. He certainly has no business being in the Labour Party, he's as right wing as they come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Randycove


    he has said something. The British government have issued a very strong statement. Why are you ignoring that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Certainly a two faced **** considering he prosecuted an ICJ genocide case against Bosnia 11 years ago.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Randycove


    that clip is from November 2024. As far as I am aware, at the time things were very different.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    He's literally an expert on human rights, international humanitarian law and the subject of war crimes and genocide (spent a good 25 years working in this area).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,415 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Randycove


    aid was being allowed through for starters. Not to mention the fact that no hostages had been returned, so Israel had a legitimate reason for being in Gaza, even if their methods were atrocious.
    what has happened since has been on a different level and has rightly even condemned by many world leaders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    What are people expecting? Keir Starmer is a member of the Labour Friends of Israel grouping. Despite everything that's happened, he hasn't condemned the genocide. As the previous link shows, if anything he's probably tacitly supporting the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

    He's a real nasty piece of work who doesn't have a moral fibre in his body.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Randycove


    not really. All they have done is use HS code 9306 and decided it is all bombs, which it isn’t because the UK doesn’t sell bombs to Israel and why would Israel buy bombs from the UK when it has a blank chequebook as far as the US goes.

    95% of Israeli arms imports are from the US, 4% from Germany and the final 1% made up from France, The UK and Italy, who are the largest exporter of the latter three countries.

    This is just projection from people who want to use the atrocities in Israel to further their own agenda. The same people aren’t on here lambasting Italy or Germany, because they have no axe to grind with those countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭threeball


    Ya ya ya, everyone is lying. All out to get poor little Israel and their allies for protecting the world from unimaginable evil.

    Whether its bombs parts to make bombs, parts for planes that deliver them or parts of the rifles used to shoot kids in the head. Its all irrelevant.

    They're party to a genocide and are hiding behind semantics, just like you, to justify it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    😂

    If not wanting to see the Palestinians exterminated and forced out of their own country is furthering an agenda, then that's one I am happy to subscribe to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    That statement was 10 days ago. What have they actually done in the meantime? What have done for 632 days?

    Perhaps they'll issue another strongly worded statement and add "thoughts and prayers" for good measure.

    At least the Irish govt. is active raising the issue very frequently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona



    This is just projection from people who want to use the atrocities in Israel to further their own agenda.

    I'm intrigued - what are people "projecting" and what is their "agenda" as regards Israel's atrocities?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Good opinion piece from Haaretz.

    Alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) lies again to save his own skin while the hostages and their families suffer and the IDF continues exterminating Gazans. Seems Trump swallowed the fib.


    The real issue remains Netanyahu's fear of losing his governing coalition, which requires the support of two far-right parties who have threatened to bring it down if he agrees to end the war in Gaza.

    That's why the war is being dragged out for so long. Netanyahu and Dermer seem to have convinced Trump that cancelling his trial will make it easier for Netanyahu to survive the implosion of his coalition, and that this would finally allow him to sign an end-of-war deal.

    But Trump should beware: Netanyahu has a long history of reneging on promises and breaking agreements, as he demonstrated just recently with the Gaza cease-fire.

    If Trump truly wants a deal in Gaza, the Netanyahu trial is a distraction, and not the main roadblock he needs to remove"

    Amir Tibon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,400 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Starmer is probably doing about all he can given the situation he finds himself in. Anyone not understanding that is likely ignorant though not definitely willfully so benefit of the doubt would be given.

    The genocidal Israeli regime should be called out for what it is alright, but while big daddy USA has their back they will continue to leave path of destruction in the region, and with some bad luck the entire world.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Tomorrow's UK press are all leading with the Bob Vylan Glastonbury story and good old Keir Starmer has weighed in calling it "appalling hate speech".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It’s the old Roy Cohn (Trump’s former lawyer) strategy. Attack, attack. Never apologise. Control the narrative.
    Every sentence spent discussing Kneecap or Bob Vylan is a sentence less discussing the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the complicity of the UK and most European governments.
    If social media and Boards.ie were around in the 1830s there would have been posters expressing outrage at the idea of banning slavery. A decade later posters would be sincerely arguing that the Irish famine was a fantastic opportunity to introduce more profitable live stock grazing in the newly deserted Irish countryside.
    A century later posters would be debating if the residents of the Warsaw ghetto had the right to undertake an uprising and pointing to the hundreds of innocent German civilians killed by the “terrorists”.
    Jim Crow era US, Apartheid South Africa, the Greek Junta. All would have their ardent supporters and posters to point out the merits of the particular human rights abuses they were supporting.
    I suspect that with the benefit of hindsight, when, posters are watching Reeling in the Years in 20 or 30 years time and their grandchildren ask them if they remember the war on Gaza they won’t be defending the scenes on the television as they do today.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭threeball


    If that were true then why was he actively condemning Kneecap or Bob Vylne. I doubt the US was going to come down heavy if he just kept his mouth shut and ignored it. The bauld Keir has never been found wanting in his rush to defend the Israeli regime. Hes not the only one, Macron and the German leaders have taken a disgusting, gutless stance too. They're more interested in dollars and cents than human lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The bizarre thing about all this is that Israel and the US practically shafted the UK and the EU last week and didn't even inform them that the US was about to bomb Iran. Apparently, the first Starmer, Macron and Merz heard about it was on their TV news bulletins. The Zionists couldn't give a flying fig about Starmer or the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭threeball


    No they don't and truth be told they dont give a toss about the yanks either. They're like a tick sucking off a host. They dont care that they're giving you lime disease, they just care that the blood keeps flowing.

    It makes the Europeans support for them all the more nauseating. Short of patting the EU and starmer on the head and telling them to be quiet, the adults are speaking, I dont know how much more humiliation it will take for them to wake up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The Zionist 'lobby' must have some hold over Starmer, Macron and Merz that they can utterly humiliate them like this and even then they can't / won't criticise Israel over its actions in Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭threeball


    They do. They'll beat the antisemitic drum like they did with Corben and have them ousted. Theres alot of financial power with zionist leanings and they'll squeeze the pursestrings to get what they want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


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    I see the gimpsuit wearing posers have succeeded in redirecting attention from what matters onto themselves

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Mere publicity seeking for them, makes them look relevant. The thing is the crowd from Glastonbury will be at home now recovering from chemically induced nausea, Gaza forgotten, just talking about the great time they had.

    The bottom headline is disturbing but people skip that headline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Have Kneecap donated all their earnings from the festival to any aid organisation one wonders?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,995 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    After the way Corbyn was treated wrt the antisemitism accusations, I'd imagine any labour leader has to be incredibly careful. I'm not saying that excuses Starmer, but it does explain why he's so reticent to call out Israel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Several commentators have made the point we wouldn't even be hearing chants like 'Death to the IDF' if Starmer and the EU had been seen to taken decisive action against Israel. It's the total lack of reaction, plus the support for the genocide from the rancid western media that has led to this vacuum.

    Would artists need to put 'Israel is committing genocide' on a screen if Starmer, Macron and Merz had already acknowledged this publicly?



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