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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Staying out of government guarantees you will get none of your policies implemented.

    Of course most of Gilmore's outlandish promises were not implemented 2011-2016, even a single party majority Labour government could not have implemented them, there was no money. The Greens 2020-2024 did very well considering their small size. Public transport has been transformed.

    BTW an article in the Indo proves nothing apart from paper never refused ink. They will write any old nonsense and lend unwarranted weight to the merest rumour especially in the field of politics. That's not to say Kelly won't stand of course, but a stopped clock is right twice a day. Not only are Indo articles of very poor quality, they're also paywalled so really should be banned as a source for anything 😄

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,434 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I wonder will her Da's track record as an FF fundraiser in the wild west days get dragged up for discussion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,729 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Her own participation in the FF government that crashed the economy would probably be question 1…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Geez,I despair for this country when I see the calibre of candidate being proposed for President,Sean Kelly,Mary Hanafin,Bertie Ahern,Catherine Connolly,Frances Black,Roisin Shortall,Joe Duffy and Colin Mcgregor.Its a sad day when Joe Duffy looks like the best choice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,413 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Senator Aubrey McCarthy has had two articles fishing for a nomination in the last few days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Christ. I gave him nothing because I didn't think him fit to be a university senator, now he wants to be flippin' president?

    Wiki:

    He has spoken at many public forums including the Fianna Fail Ardfheis, Aontú Ardfheis

    🙄

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's a shocking line-up so far. "450k a year from RTE" Joe Duffy doesn't have a hope

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Did we peak with the two Mary’s and now Michael D and the voters expect a certain level of person to be president ? What is the line up though?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Has anybody other than Mary Hanafin mentioned Mary Hanafin for president ? An appalling prospect. The only consolation is the Martin can’t stand her which snookers whatever remote prospect there is of her getting nominated.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,077 ✭✭✭Hibernicis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    She's an appallingly incompetent politician even by FF standards. Has an unshakeable belief in her own abilities which is shared by few, along with an unmatched sense of entitlement. The sort of person MM would dearly wish would just go away, so he can keep pretending the bad old days of FF never happened.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well there is no line-up really, just speculation, but there are some truly appalling candidates being speculated about!

    McGuinness gets a no.1 for me

    Sean Kelly gets nothing. FG need to cop on and not make the same sort of dreadful mistake they made in 2011, who in their right mind would have voted for President Mitchell? I've had enough of GAA heads getting away with pretty much everything short of murder because of "the great work they do in the community" 🤮 Is that unfair on Kelly? Probably. But he should have instilled some discipline in the organisation when he was in charge of it.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,900 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Duffy would a bizarre choice. He's famous as a broadcaster of course but he doesn't strike me as presidential in the slightest or someone who would be suited to the role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭techman1


    Does that mean that bestie aherns chances have increased. I think they have. I know Michael Martin is afraid of all the financial crash stuff being dragged up again, but they need to move on from that and with nama being wound up and the problems of the state now not being able to build anything unlike during celtic tiger years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,621 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Odd article

    Kildare man eyes bid to become the next President of Ireland

    https://www.kildarenow.com/news/local-news/1833147/breaking-kildare-man-eyes-bid-to-become-the-next-president-of-ireland.html

    The Naas senator has been approached by people from across the spectrum to put his name forward

    Sen McCarthy has been approached by a number of people inside and outside the Oireachtas encouraging him to run and these include retired judge Gillian Hussey, former TD Cathal Berry, councillors and journalists.

    Article doesnt mention Gillian Hussey is on the board of his Tiglin charity.

    Are these people actually across the political spectrum?

    I presume the reporter didn't actually mean to suggest journalists are encouraging him to run but thats what he wrote.

    On Saturday hosted a social event at his Punchstown home. 

    It was attended by FF TD and government minister James Lawless, Sen Fiona O’Loughlin, Wicklow FG TD Edward Timmins, and Cllr Evie Sammon.

    Also present were ambassadors from eight countries.

    Did these politicians and civil servants know they were a backdrop for his presidential election pre-campaign?

    Even the Gavan Reilly interview is weird. https://x.com/gavreilly/status/1939014274250101083

    Its starts off seemingly mid-discussion. "By your own admission you've been contacted by people asking you if….? By his own PR!? How did this interview come about? Were Virgin Media contacted by a PR company? Why did Gavreilly traipse to Greystones for this?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Nah. If he ran it'd be a strong reminder of the bad old days of Fianna Fail, and a closer look at Berties suspect finances. He'd be a fool to run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,557 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Hanafin PRing herself on the Brendan O'Connor Show. Pressuring Michaél to let her run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Is this some sort of joke? Ahern's greed and incompetence ruined many thousands of lives. The effects of the crash for those who lost their homes or lost loved ones will never end or be forgotten.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,413 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Indo suggesting that former TD and now UNICEF Ireland director Peter Power is looking for the FF nomination.

    Bertie continues to be inserting himself in to public life in a way he hasn't done for over a decade too; so definitely don't write him off as trying for it.

    FF nomination process could be the hilarity we need in silly season.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,084 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Hanafin really just is a bad smell that refuses to take the hint to fvck off, she's never seen a pensionable job she didn't want and is basically just trying to collect them all at this stage like they are pokemon cards. She is toxic as hell nationally and it's a disgrace that she managed to force her way onto the ticket in DLR and then get elected, everytime since she's failed to get elected beyond council level I've honestly done a little dance. Fvck her and the pension she rode in on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    That's not exactly true, opposition TDs can bring motions to the Dáil if the govt doesn't oppose them then they can become law. A social Democrat proposal on parental leave a few years ago became law for example. I accept it was the exception than the rule mind

    Yes, gilmores promises never came true, in fact they did the exact opposite of what people expected of them when they got into govt. Whether they were outlandish promises or not is more an opinion than fact I'd argue

    In any case, for me and many others who relied on these promises, their actions left a bad taste in our mouths

    I have seen Sean Kelly's potential candidacy floated elsewhere and while you are correct that paper never refused ink, there's rarely smoke without fire either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,665 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Bit of a nobody outside of Limerick but part of the Bertie Ahern inner circle and will obviously get the backing of UNICEF if he runs. 3 things which might actually work in his favour as a FF candidate

    Interesting… A relatively well known senator, big on the charities scene. He could have a chance I'd say… Weird article, no doubt but that's fairly typical of what you get with Iconic's range of newspapers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,557 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fionnan Sheehan lays out the challenges/stakes for FF and FG.

    Anything other than a victory for McGuinness in November’s election, though, will be a huge disappointment for Fine Gael. After leading the party to its worst ever general election result, where his own abject campaign performance played a part, Harris would again come under the spotlight. And this time out Fine Gael is in firmer contention than in 1990, when the presidential result, off the back of a poor general election a year earlier, brought an end to the leadership of Alan Dukes.

    Martin, meanwhile, enters the presidential election on pretty low expectations. But Fianna Fáil being back as the big beast in politics – albeit a far cry from the halcyon days – means he can’t credibly sit out the contest. Fianna Fáil hasn’t run a presidential campaign in 28 years, since Mary McAleese’s first outing, or had a serving politician as a candidate in 35 years, since Brian Lenihan Sr’s ill-fated candidacy.

    Cautious by nature, Martin will want a candidate who is clear on the ground rules that they are the Fianna Fáil candidate and not merely running their own private campaign under the party banner. Former junior minister Peter Power, who Martin is talking to, is far less high profile but would know his place, leaving party HQ in control of the sort of disciplined campaign the Taoiseach will want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,557 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,084 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The absolute desperation non stories being shoved out is beyond ridiculous.

    My neighbours dog hasnt been approached and apparently isnt considering it either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,285 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There is an awful of speculation around FF and FG nominees in recent weeks, but little around a left-wing nominee or two, and omerta on the SF nominee. I suspect it is all silly season stuff, and we won't have anything serious until mid to late August.

    Pointless really commenting on it until then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,557 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I suspect Ni Mhúrchú's name got into the public realm as it did, because FF were flying a kite to see reaction. Roadtesting names, so to speak.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,285 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That is more the other left parties being wary of Sinn Fein doing a solo run.

    You could see Sinn Fein backing off a unified candidate if they felt that their own candidate could out-poll them. Bit of a fox in the chicken house problem for the other left parties.



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