Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Wonder would the club be open to doing a deal which sees Dušan Vlahović coming out way and Sancho to Juventus. Both players are out of contract in 12 months and both likely to leave on frees if they don't move this summer. Unless Vlahović is someone RA thinks wouldn't suit what he wants from the CF.

i'd be happy for him to try put it altogether for ~80k per week.

If Amorim could show that he can actually develop a player in that fashion it would remove a big criticism I have of him.

Getting performances out of players who are being asked to step outside their comfort zones is a huge part of management. Anybody can put a player in their favourite position and tell them to play, the real skill is spotting the potential in a player to do something different and then actually convincing them to do it to a high standard.

Nobody has improved much under Amorim that I can see, never mind anybody improving out of position. But if we started the season with Mainoo actually performing to a high standard in a deeper role it would definitely give confidence that the manager can get the players to buy into his vision. Thats what I'm looking for, not just plugging new players into the side and hoping that raises the level.

He has all summer with the likes of Mainoo, a midfielder who started a Euro 24 final in midfield. Its not that big an ask.

Amad has been very good at RWB, better than 10 imo. I thought Dalot was tarting to look a good player at RWB prior to his injury.

I think Mazraoui looked very comfortable at RCB, but that is less of a stretch from RB.

I thought he generally got Bruno playing well as an 8.

I thought Casemiro went from looking like a total liability to playing quite well for us.

I do agree on Mainoo though - I can't get my head around the thought that the 8 role doesn't suit him, or that he would be incapable of adjusting his game to it. Amorim's reluctance to give him a proper go there is a worry for me. I do think Mainoo has issues with his game there, but the coaching team at United should be capable of helping him to adjust and improve.

The speculation towards the end of the season of him being sold because he didn't suit the system was very worrying imo - because (1) he's hardly been given a chance to prove it either way and (2) I think you need to look at what you are trying to do if you are saying there is no way Mainoo can do it…

I do hope we see Mainoo develop into the Bruno replacement (at 8) over the coming season.

Tbf to Mainoo who's level of fitness I have criticised, he looks like he's hit the gym and bulked up.

The speculation towards the end of the season of him being sold because he didn't suit the system was very worrying imo

Maybe they're just saying this rather than coming out with the truth about him possibly want a massive pay rise to sign a new contract.

As you said it's a worrying reason to be the reason why you want to sell him. The lad has massive potential, started most of Euro 2024 including the final for a conservative manager, and only just turned 20 so he's still developing his game.

Think "he doesn't fit the system" could be a lazy reason to deflect from possibly the real reason ie he's being a greedy little **** if the reports are true about his wage demands.

at Fiortina he looked like he had it all bar top end pace. Power, physicality, technically sound, good in the air, great ball striker…

But he has been rubbish for Juve.

So the question is was Fiortina a hot streak, or Juve a horrible move/time.

He is potentially worth a look if we can't get targets we would be happier with, but I think its a gamble you only take if the terms are very favourable fincially as the risk of him flopping is too great.

If we could get him on loan with an option, happy days. But I think his contract is up next summer so juve would have to give him an extention (and him agree) for that to happen I guess.

Him and Ramos are two i'd be looking at as potential late window striker targets.

any idea what fee juve are looking for?

We should offer to take him on loan with them covering part of his wages so, every other club in Europe seems to be doing it with our overpaid wasters.

2nd bid rejected. from ornstein:

Bryan Mbeumo has told Brentford & Tottenham he will only join Manchester United if he leaves Brentford this summer. #MUFC proposals £45m+£10m & £55m+£7.5m; still short of #BrentfordFC valuation - talks ongoing. #THFC deny making any offer
@TheAthleticFC

Maybe Mbuemo wants to stay at Brentford and be club captain for Keith Andrews?🙈😎

If Brentford won't sell for less than £62.5m paid on the nose then Utd need to either agree to that or move on to another target. Brentford hold the cards here, at the moment anyway and I can certainly see Andrews not wanting to lose what is probably his best player. That's potentially career ruining stuff for a new manager.

Looking forward to the first 10 premier league games. It's getting very real for Amorim now. I'd be expecting 20-24 points, regardless of opposition. If we are around 8-12, he will be gone.