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Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    It's crazy and clear they are going against the majority of their people.

    Despite some of the vocal people on here, most people are horrified by what is going on - I'm sure it's the same throughout Europe

    I'm a shades of grey person normally, but this is black and white wrong what is happening, with the thinnest of thin lies and absolute nonsensical horsh*t justifying it. That starvation is being used against millions of people by "one of our own", and all of our politicians are enabling it, is mind blowing.

    Our politicians in power in Europe, who are supposed to show at least a trace of common sense and morality, are abandoning it all to go along with this evil farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,976 ✭✭✭threeball


    What's most disturbing about this is the inaction of the like of the UN and EU. Israel do not own the coast of Gaza. The EU should send in supply ships under military guard and allow the UN to set up distribution of food and water. Tell the Israelis in no uncertain terms that any attempt to stop it will not be tolerated.

    What are they going to do. A country of 7 million people holding the whole world to ransom. Instead we'll send thoughts and prayers and watch as hundreds of thousands of people die. Our leaders, right across the EU have no morality. They get shat on by the US and they ask for another plate. They roll over for a country who does nothing for the rest of humanity except bring misery and fat cheques for a chosen few.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    Yea and look I'm having a rant, obviously not saying we need to deliver aid using balistic missiles.

    My point is they aren't some all powerful omnipotent country. They are a country the size of munster with a few million people living in it, they shouldn't be able to kill torture and starve people in order to annex their land, and there isn't a single country or group of countries can do anything about it.

    I don't understand how an obvious solution of giving food to ease starvation, which is a universally moral concept, is being shouted down in every government in power in Europe/ Asia / Africa / Americas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭tarvis


    I am right watching a news conference from the US, singing the praises of last Fridays bombing mission to Iraq. They are it seems looking for praise adoration and admiration for their audacity - Mr Hegseth has gone loopy on the possible leak and spoke passionately about the ‘stupidity’ of the most of the media for not being suitably admiring.
    He glorifying of the attack which is right now on most news stations is waving their ‘achievement’ in front of the Iranians - who also look at TV -

    methinks this petty, small minded warmonger doth protest much too much.


    edit misprint



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,511 ✭✭✭Odhinn




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    Settlers is such a benign term

    Invaders is more apt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Very nice, thoughtful piece in the Guardian about what Gaza was for those who inhabited it, before the Israeli genocide:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/jun/26/a-street-in-gaza-a-map-of-dreams-and-the-people-desperate-to-live



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Powerful piece.

    That is the legacy of Israel - a rotten stain for many many years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,440 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Pity the folk they ‘elected’ decided to invade Israel and capture and slaughter people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    That's just classic victim blaming and disgusting in my opinion.

    Of course, you seem to conveniently forget that of all the Israelis who died on Oct 7th, scores were slaughtered by the IDF.

    Pity the Israeli people elected a warmongering govt set on committing Genocide and War Crimes daily.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    Does every countries civilians deserve whatever violence happens to them if their "elected" representatives do something bad, or just Muslims Brendan?

    For example, if hundreds of thousands men women and children were being butchered in Israel (whose actually elected government are being investigated for genocide and it's leaders wanted for crimes against humanity), would you similarly shrug your shoulders and post something as c*ntish as "pity the folk they elected decided to invade Palestine and capture and slaughter people"?

    Id have marginally more respect for you if you would. Although your post would still be sociopathic, at least you wouldn't be a hypocrite in top of it.

    Secondly - and I'm asking you to look this up if you would.

    When were Hamas elected?

    What is the average age of Palestinains killed in this "war"?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What's wrong with the right wing of politics? How did it get to this point? Where no matter how egregious the situation is they'll row in behind it. No matter how destructive something can be they'll still support it. No matter how venal somebody is they'll stand with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It shows the power and influence that Israel has over the politics of Europe, Britain and America. Way, way, too much power and influence and always for the worst.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,673 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am just amazed that we have so many Irish people that are under their power and influence. Not sure why though. When our politicians (e.g. Michael D) were calling out Israel's atrocities last year, we had posters going bananas and wanting them silenced asap. The especially feared that we would annoy Trump and the MNCs. Now there are politicians and leaders all over the world criticising the Israeli atrocities/genocide and it's all fine. Harris is even allowed to call it genocide in the Dail now. It was the same for posters here that had compassion and empathy towards the innocent civilians - the automatic and completely illogical response from some posters was "you must be anti semetic". Nobody using that argument anymore. Maybe the spell has been broken but I doubt it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,733 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Interesting that you are seeking to justify the Israeli genocide, rather than denying it is happening i.e. "they brought it on themselves".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,278 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Israelis carrying out a pogrom against the Palestinian village of Turmusayya in the West Bank. The Israeli state then shoot the Palestinians. To think the skirmish in Amsterdam last year was all over the news as a 'pogrom' but actual pogroms barely get a mention by the Israeli backed media in the west.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,278 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,016 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    When our politicians (e.g. Michael D) were calling out Israel's atrocities last year, we had posters going bananas and wanting them silenced asap.

    Most of that gibberish is the usual right vs left bollocks. There's a number of posters on here who can only see things in those simplistic terms and are willing to die on any hill, no matter how ridiculous they look, just because "their team" is involved. If Israel was run by a left leaning government, they'd be signing a completely different song.

    There's no point in even acknowledging people like that, never mind trying have a conversation with them. They aren't here to converse honestly and are only repeating the points that their political masters have laid out for them.

    It's one thing to support Israel, but it's an entirely different matter to support what Netanyahu's Israel is doing. You really have to lower yourself to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Back to square one. Extermination of Palestinians ratcheted up a notch now Israel has had enough of bombing Iran.

    Alleged War Criminal #1 (at large) is only interested in saving his political skin.

    Haaretz:

    PM Netanyahu halted the entry of humanitarian aid into northern Gaza after far-right minister Bezalel Smotrich threatened to leave the coalition if aid ended up in Hamas' hands



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