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Zero Situational Awareness

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Orban6


    The worst case of chatting at tills for me was in Lidl a few months ago.

    Firstly, but not relevant, the person 2 ahead of me was returning an item so that took an age.

    The girl in front of me must have known the assistant as they strike up a deep conversation in their native language, east European I think. The assistant was constantly pausing to speak instead of rushing the shopping through. Of cause the shopper waited until all the shopping was through before packing her bag, still talking and pausing the entire time.

    When she went to pay, she remembered she had a prepaid card, or something, somewhere in the bottom of her very large handbag so everything had to come out of the bag. The first item she took out was an industrial size loo roll!

    Still talking the whole time, she then had to find her debit card.

    2 people behind me moved to another till and both got through ahead of me.

    I felt like complaining to the manager but what's the point but needless to say, I haven't seen the particular assistant there since.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭89897


    I dont see the word trans there one. But this is derailing the thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    In fairness some men do wear high heels that aren't trans and that is an assumption on your side. Prince used to wear high heels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    +1 on that.

    I often click clack loudly around the kitchen in my stilettos after midnight. Yeah sure the wife and kids complain but its the only time I get to practice my ballroom dancing. Although I could do it at another time. And quietly. And I don't like ballroom dancing.

    Sure so what just be happy for me damn you. 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    I find it handier to use my physical debit card and clubcard, quick scan and no messing with the phone.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Esse85


    I think years ago we were more patient and tolerant of many of the examples given here, but since the improvement in technology and life speeding up, we have less forgiveness for muppets who haven't moved with the times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,405 ✭✭✭jacool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    I have some sympathy for elderly people in supermarkets who engage cashiers in conversation. They might be the only person they speak to that day.

    But I have zero tolerance for anyone (elderly or otherwise) who pick their bags at the tills in Aldi/Lidl!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I pack my bags at the till in Lidl.

    One can easily pack items as they are scanned, so there is no hold up for others, then simply pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,516 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Someone posted a valid point: that the vast majority of the people who do X, in their experience, are women.

    You jumped straight in with both feet, playing both the misogyny card and the "how do you know they were women, sometimes men wear heels too" card. You tried to de-legitimse his point, instead of actually responding to it.

    You're telling him that those women he saw may in fact not have been women, but men. How in the everloving fcuk do you think someone would confuse a man in heels with a woman unless they are trans?

    You're getting the hump because you don't like the reality of the situation. You're attempting to downplay this person's lived experience by telling them there's a chance they were mistaken. It is both dismissive and based entirely on an assumption that is almost certainly untrue. You've zero idea if any of the women that poster described were actually men, it's just a sad attempt at cheapening his argument because you have zero in the way of an actual counterpoint.

    Every single traveller I've ever had the misfortune to meet was a grifter and a snake. Every one. That doesn't mean every single traveller in the country is like that, it's just my experience of the ones I've met. That isn't discriminatory towards our 'nomadic' ethnic minority, it's just a fact. Your comment about men in heels is the equivalent to saying "well how do you know it wasn't a settled person wearing tracksuit bottoms and leather slip on shoes". It ignores the crux of the point completely.

    Similarly, there is a difference between "Every Israeli I've ever met has been certifiably crazy" and "Every Israeli is certifiably crazy". It's not anti-Semitic to share one's experience. It is intellectually dishonest, however, to discount someone's experience because it pokes holes in your white knight argument. Just accept that he knew they were women and move on, instead of attempting to discredit his point by pretending he, the one common denominator in each of these interactions, was mistaken, as if you, who was never present in even one single interaction, would know better. It's desperate stuff altogether.

    Your refusal, BTW, to even acknowledge the part of my post about you removing the agency of 50% of the country, speaks volumes. You're getting offended on behalf of a demographic of people that may not even take the slightest offence. You're infantilising them, which is nearly as bad as painting them all with the same brush



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    The AI was supposed to show him smoking but it screwed up the image and showed him with smoke coming out of his back instead 😅

    ”If I offended you, you needed it!!” - Corey Taylor



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    and with the trolley spearing him in the foot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Genghis


    It mustn't have been able to figure out where the 2 back wheels would go on a 3/5 scale sized shopping trolley either.



  • Site Banned Posts: 37 Kimiko 75


    I hit a woman on the back of the heel with a trolley recently. Now, was that my fault for not looking where I was going properly or hers for stopping dead in the middle of an aisle right in front of me?

    I dunno, felt terrible though, not much you can do/say to make it better



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 55,425 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you shouldn't need to have to look behind you if walking around a supermarket, and you need to stop.

    the person pushing the trolley is the one with the vehicle and the one with the clear line of sight, so similar rules to driving. you should be able to stop in the distance you have available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    If there was no damage to the trolley, nor harm done.



  • Site Banned Posts: 37 Kimiko 75


    What if you just stop to look down at your phone? ….....I did feel bad



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Packing your bags is slower than putting items directly into trolley for later packing.

    Despite what you might say/think. This thread is about you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    As I have outlined, the items are deposited into my bag as they are scanned, so there is no delay. This is not rocket science.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Orban6


    If you're doing a basket shop, you're not allowed to take the basket through so packing a bag (one in my case) is the only real option and it takes no time.

    If a trolly shop, I pack at the car.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I shop in Dunnes every week, never seen anyone put something back due to the vouchers.

    Back when the alcohol hitlers had less control of our government, you could quickly grab a bottle of wine to get to your voucher target… now it's usually toilet rolls (if you need to make up a few quid) and they're not next to the checkouts

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is a lively debate on the internet about packing etiquette. In respectable corners of the web like Mumsnet and Digital Spy, as well as the usual scurrilous outlets. But as usual the Corkonians cracked it a decade ago.

    https://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/articles/man-hopes-to-become-faster-than-lidl-checkout-guy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,040 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Maybe instead of what used to be called "express checkouts" there should be a designated "OAP and wants to chat for ages" checkout and let the rest of us get on with our busy day? 😀

    Offer them free Werther's Originals with every five shops or something to get them to use it.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,383 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Someone admitting to their lack of situational awareness!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Some might not be using a trolley, some do a small ish shop with just two bags.

    Yeh the elderly stopping to talk at every point is a real issue, the world has moved on - fast paced, A to B, places to be etc.

    I don't talk to the cashier at the till, a quick 'how are you?, grand thanks, yourself? Grand' is the absolute most I will ever do.

    Talking to your cashier for a good full 15 minutes is something from the 1950s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    People stopping in the middle of the footpath, walking side by side and refusing to allow oncoming people pass, stopping at the bottom of escalators, blocking the narrow bus aisle because they haven't found or need to top up their leap card, and blocking supermarket shelves with the trolley, have all increased massively of late I think.

    Needing phone apps for reward cards, vouchers and payment has definitely slowed things down at the tills, particularly vouchers since you have to bring up each one individually to use it separate to scanning the "card".

    In Aldi I think the loss of hand baskets has caused a big slow down at the tills. The wheel baskets are big enough now that people have much more to pack from them. And since you can't bring them past the till people are packing a lot more items directly into bags, rather than just the few bits from a hand basket, or having a proper trolley to collect into. The new baskets are also much slower to unpack on to the belt due to the awkward bending required. I hate them. I find people choosing to put items back and get them cancelled off their bill once they see the total is fairly common in Aldi. This isn't a situational awareness thing though, just a sad reflection of the current situation. I don't feel annoyed at these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,317 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Somebody else could visit supermarkets regularly, and never encounter any of this behaviour. I think there is some sort of herd mentality, where the sensible people congregate, away from the feeble minded. I never notice this stuff anyway.



  • Site Banned Posts: 37 Kimiko 75


    Perhaps the person stopping right in the middle of the aisle in front of me was the one with zero situational awareness??!

    That's what you complained about in the OP

    Post edited by Kimiko 75 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,073 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    When you are driving a car, and you hit the car in front, that is your fault.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Not if the car in front slows to zero suddenly for no reason.



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