Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

I would say the people who chant out out out are not fond of many kinds of immigrants, that's all I'm saying

On your last paragraph. Some known racists may have been there but they don't make up a majority not even a slight one or a significant minority either. Attention seekers maybe. I don't know them as I don't do follows on any social media. I don't click like or dislike so they don't pop up on any feed.

The statement from the other poster was that many want Indians out. Both of you are implying your own narrative to the march. People have a right to protest in peace without someone making their own narratives and twisting it to suit what they think about those people.

Like you said, it's your narrative.

Failed AS should not have been given leave-to-remain.

If this had happened (it's too late now), then the failed AS would have been expected to either leave by themselves, or be removed.

Is it too late to change the past? Could we remove the leave-to-remain? I don't know.

I expect that many failed AS who were given leave-to-remain have subsequently acquired citizenship, so it's too late.

What's frustrating, but also very Irish, is the way when failed AS get leave-to-remain, they go back and visit their country of origin, thus proving their claim is bogus. But we let them stay anyways.

I suppose the best we can do now is be sensible from now on.

Don't give out leave-to-remain to failed AS from now on.

But I'm not sure the Govt will do that, they are very soft.

They have revoked deportation orders. Unreal, can you believe that?

AS apply for asylum, they fail, they are eventually ordered to be deported, and the Govt itself revokes the deportation order.

You couldn't make it up.

I don't think we can deport failed AS who have been given leave-to-remain, although others may know more about the legal aspect of leave-to-remain.

I think the best we can do, in the present, is to remove the existing applicants.

By that I mean applicants who have not yet been given leave-to-remain.

I think that figure is more like 30,000?

Speed up the processing of claims to a week, and then remove.

Let them appeal from their home country.

Remove to their home country whether or not the home country co-operates.

I sometimes wonder about the 30-odd citizens of the USA who have claimed asylum here.

What are the grounds for their claim, I wonder?

Will they be successful?

Imagine, Pakistan has a nuclear weapons programme.

We struggle to put two naval ships to sea.

Yet their citizens claim asylum here.

I can never understand why our own asylum seekers don't have to attend these classes.

That’s just foreign nationals and does NOT including the children of foreign nationals which would increase the figures even further. The UK had a report on the grooming gangs where they represented 50% of the grooming activities in areas where they were under ten percent of the population or less. Just because these issues don’t fit with what you would like doesn’t mean that there are not real and persistent problems with certain cultures everywhere they go. Both of the main parties buried these findings rather than deal with the ugly truths. These are going to be the clerical coverups of this time in history as you can only hide the truth so long.

Yeah sure we do.

The main point of contentions in this thread now seems to be around is ok to be racist. Its not!

And

Who should we hold responsible for the immigration policy decisions that have exacerbated this crisis.

Some like me think the sitting government and justice ministers bear most responsibility.

While anti-immigrant voices in the thread want to blame opposition parties (some who haven't been in government ever) and a former minister for children.

A quarter of sexual assaults being foreign nationals is a proportionally huge number.

Why do people mention race?

I never mention race.

I want all asylum claims processed swiftly, and all failed AS deported.

I don't mind or care what race they are. That never enters my mind. What I am focussed on is that their claim is bogus.

Do u think the average Afghani n Somali men would have differing views on equal rights for women, LGBTQ etc than the average Irish fella?

Did you forget we already discussed how it would be impossible to process claims in a week? Where would they stay while awaiting deportation?

The taoiseach recently stated 80% of asylum seekers are economic migrants, why should we provide anything for them apart from a one way ticket?

Ireland is such a rich country? Really? Do u live in Ireland?