Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

can we stop with the “west” please with US sliding into a dictatorship that only leaves a bunch of European countries and few others

And there has been movement, it just has been drowned out by the hoopla in Middle East

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/06/23/7518385/

https://united24media.com/latest-news/nato-france-and-ukraine-trial-next-gen-weapons-to-stop-russian-glide-bombs-9257

https://www.defensemirror.com/news/39727/Norwegian_Firm_Kongsberg_to_Co_Develop_Air_Defence_Missiles__Drone_Boats_in_Ukraine

There’s been a load of announcements tho alot of European countries lately chose not to advertise to Russians what’s coming their way like the Trumpistanis who made loads of promises and then fucked off when it came to delivery

been a bit of movement and yeah its been sidelined a bit by israel/iran and that donnie von redacted seems to have forgotten all about Ukraine,at a guess he doesnt want to upset his bestest,biggliest bestie vlad..

The west has an absolutely massive anti-air missile problem, even the US. This is where the west is most falling down with support for Ukraine. While the missile deficit is near insoluble in the short term, there is actually a solution, and that's European fighter jets deployed in Ukraine to shoot down drones and cruise missiles, and anything the Orcs put in the air to lob glide bombs. There are NATO AEGIS ashore batteries in Poland and Romania that could intercept ballistic missiles, but they might have too limited a supply of ammunition to really be of use given their need to hold back some interceptors for more critical purposes.

Ukraine is now deploying interceptor drones which might be a game changer for stopping Shaheds, but that still leaves the ballistic missile problem, but they are more limited in rate of production and their high cost will hasten the collapse of the Orc economy if they try to increase production.

Never forget the Bucha massacre, you can understand why the Ukranians need to keep the Russians out.

Badly needed. Russia has really upped its drone arsenal.

Edited for an American audience but if you can see past the user added effects and voice it does a pretty good job of discussing the vehicles and weaponry involved. No descriptions of where exactly the footage used is from either but I do recognise the first assault video from a few months ago (maybe even last year) just can't remember where it was.

No arguments there tho European nato members scraped together 40bn for Ukraine for next year at today’s summit and Netherlands alone announced a factory with Ukrainians to make 600,000 drones in next year

Zelensky to his credit continues to make good deals where alot of the production endsup in Ukraine itself which is a good long term plan

what ceasefire? Did you miss the posts yesterday here reporting Putin’s own desire to keep going

The idea of peaceful co existence is all well and good while you have a deterrent for bad actors; in the real world of empire building you need security to underwrite those cheques.

The EU has completely relied upon the USA guarantee of free trade through there military power to pay for that standard of living improvement.

The idea that all world powers will expose progressive values is a fairytale and always has been; the chicken are now home to roost. Praying and hoping for world peace isn't much of a strategy

Progressive values for Europe while eastern Ukraine is getting raped and pillaged between 2014-22 and EU is doing 2 Trillion in trade with Russia. Wonderful for us, not so wonderful for the inhabitants of the Donbas. Lets build a pipleline with Putin while eastern Ukraine is getting fcuked. "I'm all right Jack" progressive it would seem to me?

Their dependence on Russian energy completely emboldened Putin to do what he did. We knew exactly who he was; he showed us in Chechnya, Syria, Congo, Georgia but we still continued to prioritised "cheap" energy over biting the bullet and getting serious about energy and security.

The EU is built on a fairytale that we can

1.rely on some other entity for our security

2. Can finance a despot on our doorstep and not enough up with major consequences.

The financial strain of the last 15 years has not prepared the EU well for a massive upturn in defence spending. The current goal of 5% GDP is either going to lead to drastic cuts in other areas or we put even more on the credit card for our grand kids which is in many EU countries is already a runaway train.

The same progressive that has led us to a situation where we are not having enough kids that massive immigration is needed to keep up standards of living and all the social and political issues that have come with that. It's already cost us the loss of the UK from the EU and the rise of the far right in many EU countries.

Indeed but in 2014 if European leaders said "right we're completely cutting from Russian energy" many would have lost their seats in the next election - that's the reality. It unfortunately took an invasion to start making the cut.

Russia still has the mindset of a early 20th century European empire, that attack is defence.

Not enough credit has been given to the Ukrainians for what they've done to the ruzzians.

The self proclaimed "second best army in the world" has been totally gutted as a fighting force and barely has the capability to win a tiny village or two every week or so. Their manpower, finances, military stockpiles have been almost completely drained now.

Sooner rather than later a collapse will come. We nearly seen it when Wagner went rogue, we're going to get another moment like that not before long and when it happens the demise of putrid will be lightning fast.

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I think the interest on seized funds was always up for grabs for use but not the assets themselves.

If I remember correctly they already did get some of them back in 22/23.