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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭kowloon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,277 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What we know is that Iran was complying with the terms of the JCPOA. In 2018 Trump abandoned that and it resulted in the favourable terms for Iran under the JCPOA being dropped, such as sanctions being reinstated. Sanctions that were worsened further in 2019. Trump's idiotic tariffs have also resulted more hardship.

    So, perhaps you're correct. Maybe Iran was upping their game with enriching uranium to 60% to use it as a bargaining chip of sorts. In any case, they weren't really hiding the fact that they enriching uranium to higher levels because inspectors easily found that out. If they had wanted to pursue enriching uranium to use in a weapon, it wouldn't have been that hard to do it in complete secrecy. The IAEA had reported that they were enriching uranium to higher levels back in Nov 2023 and yet Iran has always signalled their interest in restoring the accords of the JCPOA.

    Now, the Iranian regime are hard ones to read at the best of times and there's few both inside and outside of the country that would view them as anything but a monstrous theocracy with an appalling track record. But that doesn't mean that we should automatically believe proven liars like Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu's take on things over there either.

    In any case, as I mentioned before, if they weren't pursuing a nuclear weapon before you can be sure that there's people over there that are determined to now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    You make good points but China won't need Taiwan to become a threat to them. They already plan on taking them without that pretext. The only thing stopping them is the might of the American army but they're catching up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,833 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Very welcome news - a ceasefire cannot be a bad thing (if it holds of course).

    One other good thing is that it will bring the spotlight straight back on to the Israeli genocide in Gaza - the need for humanitarian aid there is beyond urgent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    Have the United States/Israel "been causing havoc for decades"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭quokula


    I'm not sure what you mean? They've de-escalated, provided an off ramp, and taken things back from the brink. It's made an absolute mockery of all the claims of Iran being irrational and dangerous and warmongering, and the world is going to remember that they complied with every international treaty, negotiated diplomatically, were attacked unprovoked in complete contravention of international law, then continued to show restraint and find a way back to peace.

    The upshot of all of this is that Israel has shown on an even bigger stage that it is a rogue state that has a complete disregard for international law, the US has shown itself to basically jump on Israel's command even when that means acting against its own intelligence, and Iran has shown itself to have shown restraint and to have complied with international law every step of the way to de-escalate and find a route back to peace.

    This will have repercussions for decades and will be cited by the likes of China and Russia whenever any future disputes arise. And of course it's only served to accelerate Iran's nuclear program from one that had no intention of building nukes and was in full compliance with all treaties and inspections, into one that their parliament is already making moves to start treating as a serious goal for future deterrence as they now know that compliance didn't stop them from being attacked illegally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,387 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The Iranians knew they couldn't get dragged into a shooting war with Israel and the US and needed any kind of out they could get. I don't know if they're still going to be against Israel, but they'll need some time to limp away and change tac,so this ceasefire will be welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Someone needs to tell trump Israel and Iran are not contestants on a new TV show of his. I don't follow his socials but I can't help but laugh when it read the waffle he posts 😂

    Constantly have to remind myself he's the most powerful man in the world. Well maybe his puppet master Bibi is but you get the point.

    Anyway back to reality Iran deny they've received anything and Israel are bombing them hard tonight. Time will tell.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    The ceasefire is indeed welcome but how long will it last? Just like Gaza it won’t be long before the Israel renege on the agreement and, on their bidding, Trump will start mouthing off with tough guy talk again. A ceasefire with the Israelis isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on sadly.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,199 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    GOD BLESS EVERYBODY 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    The turnip has chimed in

    “I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, 'THE 12 DAY WAR.'"

    "This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It will last long enough for Arrow, David’s Sling and the Iron Dome arsenal to be well replenished. The Israeli air force jets maintained and their pilots rested.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Lots of scepticism on social media now as to whether a ceasefire could have been agreed or if Trump has totally jumped the gun. It's only five hours since the attack on Qatar was revealed…..surely nowhere near enough time to agree a total ceasefire?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    This Trump Tweet could be total BS by Donnie

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    What a sh*t show



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    It’s worth noting that during the Tanker War, while war insurance went up, the ships did not stop transiting. Eventually they were escorted by US warships.

    A day or two’s delay before entering the gulf may well be prudent, but long term, the spice…erm…crude must flow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I see Rutte, the clown head of NATO doesn't agree the US bombing Iran is against international law. It's actually laughable how hypocritical these guys are. NATO is a peace organisation we're told! 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,721 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The ceasefire agreement has been confirmed by iranian officials



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Trumps tweets are as hilarious as they are scary, I mean who would have ever thought in 2025 that we would have a US president tweeting this kind of stuff, the man hasn't the slightest clue how much of a moron he is, without a doubt he'll go down in history as the biggest fool to ever sit as president, that will be his legacy, the guy is being played by everyone and doesn't have the sense to see it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,147 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    1. Iranian regime chose survival
    2. Israel achieved most of their military goals
    3. Trump got to play his "I made peace" crapola

    Happened sooner than I thought, ended quicker than I thought. I guess things will chill now for awhile (except, as usual, for the Palestinians who have to endure hell)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    So I see - that must have been brokered at breakneck speed then, the attack on Qatar was only announced at 6pm. Perhaps the US and Iran had been negotiating a ceasefire in secret for days?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    The title of this thread confuses me.

    Obama did a deal with the Iranians to remove all uranium from the county and to monitor the borders. They also still allow inspectors in.

    People keep saying there was no rise in radiation in the sites attacked for reasons they keep changing.. they were too far underground .. they removed all the uranium..

    But .. both Trump and Israel keep saying over and over .. we have destroyed their entire nuclear programe .. then they keep on bombing.

    We have been here before ..

    There is no nuclear programe.

    But there doesnt need to be. Iran has quite the military capacity and is surrounded by mountains.

    Basically it needs ground forces to do anything .. and they will be surrounded and cut off .. this will cost the west more than iraq and afghanistan combined. They will need so many more ground troops and they will be cut off many times before its over.

    The most recent IAEA report, released on May 31, 2025 found TINY TINY amounts of man-made uranium particles at Turquzabad. So that means the monitoring of the borders is working. They are not getting mined uranium in. Now while it sounds bad that they had man made uranium its only if you dont know the fact. It is not possible to make uranium 238. Which is weapons grade uranium. it has to be mined and separated out from natural uranium. The fact they had man-made uranium should in an of itself tell us they were not persuing nuclear weapons and its useless for that purpose. Uraniam 238 is 99% of the earths natural uranium

    This is weapons of mass destruction terror tunnels on steroids. And we are all going to pay higher oil prices because of it and dont think the overlords will help us.

    They do not have nuclear capabilities and its likely they are not persuing them and were not persuing them.

    There was no rise in radiation in the sites attacked.

    Meaning there was no uranium of any type present. People saying they moved the man-made uranium it doesnt matter. It cant ever be used for nuclear weapons.

    You need natural uranium to separate. It was one of the best Obama policies ever to take ALL the uranium out of Iran and set up monitoring on the borders to stop any getting in. BRILLIANT. THANK YOU OBAMA everyone thank Obama.

    And as recently as may … inspectors found TRACE .. TRACE amounts of low grade man made uranium. Its not every going to be able to be used for weapons.

    Those are the facts.

    Prize to the person who guesses first how many times i mispelled Uranaminamamn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,239 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    By the way fun fact.

    The street that the britsh embassy was on.. the Iranians named it Bobby Sands St. So for a while the British had to use Bobby Sands on all correspondance. But then the put a tiny entrance on the back.. and made that the postal address.

    The other street is still called Bobby Sands st though.

    Do the Iranians know how to troll or what?

    Also Iran had a democratic progressive (relatively) govt in 1953 but they wanted to nationalize oil and so the UK and the USA organized a coup against the govt and installed the Shah as a dictator he tanked the economy and caused food shortages but the BBC and CNN just kept reporting on all the advances this dictator was doing for women. But his land reforms caused food shortages and the economy tanked completely and he imprisoned the press. So the 79 revolution happened and the Ayatolla returned. Still now they keep talking about intalling this monarch! They are not even attempting to pretend they want democracy for Iran.. they keep talking about this monarch in exile who MIGHT be able to unite the iranian people. duh duh duuh.

    They talking about Iranian women … 50 % of the doctors in Iran are women. And yeah yeah the regime sucks for lgbt people .. but the same people who are saying IRELAND WAS NEVER MORE FREE IN THE 50s .. are saying Iran is like this terrible place for women and gay people. And Im like yeah i know and bombing them probably isnt going to make their lives better. What do you want to replace the ayatolla with?? yeah a MONARCH.

    Also they do have elections its just the candidates are pre selected by the mullahs.

    Its the same story the slaves in yemen.. the women in afghanistan … they must be saved but there is no other option but bombing this is the ONLY way to save them, bomb them.

    But saudi?? Pretty awful regime .. not a democracy arguably LESS democratic than iran tbh.. nah that is fine.

    And NO I dont like the Iranian regime. I support women's rights and lgbt rights. But guys come on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭Seattle


    No surprises that Trump wants everyone to do what suits him best. He campaigned on being the president of peace so he he's desperate not to get involved in a protracted conflict. Iran are desperate for a ceasefire because they're in a terrible position and need the opportunity to regroup.

    Israel won't want a ceasefire because they'll view this as too good of an opportunity to decisively deal with what they see as an existential threat. They won't want to stop until they completely decimate Iran's military capabilities beyond all doubt. Remember what Iran have done over the last number of years. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis - all Iranian proxies presenting a constant background threat to Israel. Israel systematically weakened them, obliterated Iranian air defense systems and achieved total air superiority over Iran. Israel will undoubtedly want to keep going and inflict as much damage on the Iranian regime as possible. Does anyone really think that if roles were reversed, and Iran had this sort of military advantage over Israel, that they'd agree to a ceasefire?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Posting on social media that there is PEACE doesn't automatically make it SO. Thank you for your attention to this matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Israel started it and Iran ended it. Ball is in Israel's court now.

    Seems like last nights attacks caused utter devastation all over the place. Last missiles hit at 6.58 am Tel aviv time two minutes before ceasefire.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,833 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Press X to doubt

    The regime is still in power. Badly hurt, lots of infrastructural damage and loss of key people. Buts its survived.

    Irans uranium is now missing.

    It will rebuild its ballistic missiles or get donations from other nations to make up for not supporting them during the war.

    Israel started this and the world knows it. With the war crimes committed in Gaza, this with Iran, I think Israel may have burned through a good chunk of its US support base including the MAGA heads.

    I get the horrible feeling that this is not quite over yet, but rather a pause.

    Edit: for fcuk sake. That pause barely lasted two hours.

    Post edited by TheValeyard on

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    What you are not mentioning is that they used the drop of embargoes and financial aid to buy weapons and support insurgents in their neighbouring countries to further destabilise the region which lead to Oct 7th and these strikes.



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