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Appalling 1st half display, somewhat rescued from a respect perspective by the 2nd half showing. BUT our lack of any plan on kick outs is a disgrace quite frankly and if we any serious work done on that we could be close to teams like Kerry. I thought ref was really poor too and did us a lot of harm.

THe same lads are the entire local media aswell the Celt, Northern Sound and WAC so it's the same views we are getting the whole time.

it’s all a cosy cartel within Breffni. WAC hounded out McGleenan for much better performances & results than the current set up but no criticism is allowed

I have to admit I didn’t rate McGleenan whatsoever. After one year, a lot of players wouldn’t play for him and there was high turnover. That said, he had a better record in Division 1 than Mickey Graham & I don’t think the team at the time was as good.

I said it before and I’ll say it again: it’s disappointing that the county board never backed this group of players with a top, proven manager. Look at what Mickey Harte did in Louth.

WAC throw out excuses that managers weren’t interested but if the cheque book is open for the right amount it obviously peaks their interest. Cavan CB are too busy worrying about hotels and increasing the capacity of a stadium we never come near filling.

Lads that are having a cut at supporters get into games for free, get paid to travel to the games, paid to work at it and likely get expences aswell for food. There in a different world than the average supporter who if they went as a family with 2 over 16's today would have been out 250e minimum.

That development will never happen.

Just reading reaction to yesterday's game on alot of sites and forums.

The general consensus is fair play to Cavan.

I can't get over this mentality; we were an absolute shambles for most of that game.

We played for about 10 minutes in the second half through players taking it by the scruff of the neck.

But kerry should have scored 7 or 8 goals yesterday.

Can't believe we are praising the team after yesterday; no serious football county would accept a performance like that.

The management team whilst trying their best are too inexperienced at this level.

We need a clear out i reckon and a focus on injecting more pace into the team and more physicality around the middle.

I'll finish on a positive fair play to Paddy Lynch great performance from him after a long lay off.

I think if we stop playing Ulster teams we'll be grand

Really hard to know what to make of that year . Shoots of green followed by the darkest of days

anyone any predictions of players who might step away between now and next season ?

@Cavan_King

"I have to admit I didn’t rate McGleenan whatsoever. After one year, a lot of players wouldn’t play for him and there was high turnover. That said, he had a better record in Division 1 than Mickey Graham & I don’t think the team at the time was as good.

I said it before and I’ll say it again: it’s disappointing that the county board never backed this group of players with a top, proven manager. Look at what Mickey Harte did in Louth.

WAC throw out excuses that managers weren’t interested but if the cheque book is open for the right amount it obviously peaks their interest. Cavan CB are too busy worrying about hotels and increasing the capacity of a stadium we never come near filling."

I agree, there was an opportunity when Graham was stepping down to pull out all the stops and get an elite manager and head hunt someone. Look at Louth, Meath and Monaghan- the difference getting the right manager in.

When Hyland left, we had a situation whereby next to no one applied. When Graham stepped down, we had only a handful of people apply.

I think that is out of order and quite frankly reeks of a bitterness normally associated with some personal issue. Of course you don't have to subscribe to the patreon or listen to their free podcasts if you dont want to either. You realise players are amateur, so how hard would you like to go on them? Do you "go hard" on your club players yourself when they underperform?

As someone who subscribes i heard a lot of criticisms in the past few weeks alone. Not freshening up the starting team was put forward as a criticism, the poor defensive set up was a criticism. The county board and development has been called out numerous times. Not sure what else you want them to say, that everyone involved is shite?

As for all these attacks on Raymond Galligan, I think he has plenty to answer for and I have said so here already, but they are also over the top. Look at what he is dealing with. Kerry are the joint favourites for Sam we have a U20 playing midfield against them and pretty much no other fit recognised midfielder of the required standard on the panel. Young Donohoe came on and if you were there you would see he ain't ready yet. Some of our experienced players made very very poor mistakes and decisions in the 1st half costing us a huge amount of scores - that's not on Raymond Galligan. Is Raymond the best manager in Ireland, for sure he is not. Is he the best manager Cavan can attract - probably, when you look at our underage success or lack of it. Who else would come near us? Oisin McConville was touted, he would be an outside bet - yesterday his team threw away a 7 point lead against limerick to lose a semi final. If Ray or Terry Hyland did that there would be calls for a public execution in Cavan.

Yes I agree with that. In fairness, I think a lot of management teams are struggling with kick outs. We need to innovate and not wait to see what Tyrone or Armagh are doing and try to copy it. No excuse not to have something better in place next season.

Talk about selling the players we have short. A man who didn’t even coach a juvenile team in his own club with no management experience whatsoever is the best you think we can do? He wasn’t even the best man of the three or so touted for the job. Kevin MacDermott was a proven club and intercounty manager.

And that’s not an attack on Galligan. He was a great servant to Cavan who reinvented himself but you see plenty of county lads get involved with teams in their clubs and he was one I never saw with any Lacken team. Compare him to his own club mate Finbarr O’Reilly even.

As for McConville, he had already outperformed expectations having Wicklow there as I’m sure you are well aware.

You say experienced players making mistakes is not on Galligan. It’s going on for a few games in a row now. Why not try to change something? Ruairi Curran did well in Brewster but then doesn’t even get a run a week later. Galligan has continued to pick the same team. We hear about jeopardy in the championship & it’s harder to get knocked out than stay in, well there’s certainly no jeopardy for a cohort of the Cavan lads and it’s harder get into an underperforming team than stay in it.

This is very easy to prove. You're telling me if I go back and listen to the first round review from last year, neither of the hosts will have said they were at any game?

Go back and see how many games the information they had were from twitter.