Ballymena Riots **Mod Warning in OP**

Anyways it's ironic that the Ulster unionists are rioting over immigration because they were the first migrants to be brought over into Ireland by the British against the wishes of the native Irish population, and in enough numbers to overwhelm the Irish population in many parts of Ulster to the point where Ulster stayed a part of the UK while the rest of Ireland gained independence in the 1920s.

Exactly, very interesting to note the silence from Michael-Henry-McIvor and NIMAN when their republican brethren in Derry have been rioting these last few nights, very quick to go to town on the Loyalists, but nothing to say about their own dregs of society. I honestly hope to god I don't live to see the day when we are united with that sectarian dump

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and Carrickfergus too

Loyalists never change. When they were getting shot by the IRA during the Troubles, many of us were indifferent at best.

They are not Republicans rioting in derry- the dissidents are not allowed a bonfire in Derry this year and their children are cross-

No difference between dissidents and loyalists- both have no mandate from the people so they are taking it out on the other side- / with the police in the middle-

We have already removed the acts that Britain held us in-

But the majority of people in the 32 will vote for a united Ireland-

We neither fear U or the loyalists / dissidents-

I think my question was clearly asked.

By not being multicultural, what exactly are they missing out on?

Let's list this out.

Peace walls: They hate outsiders so much that giant walls have to be erected to stop the two sides from firebombing each other.

A stable political system: Politics in NI is about hating another group. Especially for unionists. So there's hard right political parties whose entire existence is predicated on hating other people.

Rioting: They riot all the fecking time. And it's always about hating a different group. It could be someone who's a different religion. It could be a different race or ethnicity. It doesn't matter, they just have to be different.

An economy that works: No-one wants to open up businesses there because of all the hatred. When NI was still in the EU it contained some of the most deprived areas in the EU. It's still one of the poorest places in western europe.

The people of NI are suffering and it's because of right wing xenophobia.

The UK in general has a poor economy and plenty of deprived areas.

Northern Ireland is not special in that regard.

You didn't answer my question at all - you just gave a laundry list of how awful unionists are.

And none of those problems are solved by adding migrants from all over the world.

All that would do is exacerbate them.

No arguments from me about any of this.

What I am saying is they gain nothing by becoming more multicultural.

There's pressure from certain sides for them to be more welcoming e.g. the BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq5gn10z8gwo

Why I am saying is nothing is gained from that.

There are plenty of places more densely populated that don';t have those issues. And northern Ireland is neither densely populated, nor has a large immigrant population.

Nevertheless the UK had 9 of the top 10 most deprived areas in the EU when it was still in the EU. And a number of them were in NI.

The UK has a large economy however it's largely based in the south, especially around London. The city of london is responsible for a large chunk of GDP.

Immigration is not to blame for any of these issues. Decades of under investment, starting with Thatcher, in these areas are to blame.

Editing to add: here's the wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_London London accounts for 22% of the UK GDP. the city of london, a one square mile area is responsible for 133 billion a year.

Lol. I don't know if that's supposed to be a joke.

You seem to have very little faith in the Northern Irish people ( a people that produced William Thomson or lord Kelvin - one of the best physicists that ever lived)

Theoretically if you are very picky and make all applicants provide criminal record checks, verification of qualifications and experience before issuing a work permit then yes there's a chance of good contribution.

I doubt that happens and again I would argue -they have got by without immigration for the last 400 years. I don't get how all of a sudden they need it.

Belfast looks nice and neat when I was there a wee while ago.

Dublin looks quite dumpy.

Belfast has really cleaned up its act this last decade or so.

Actually a decent city now for a few nights away, eating out, few drinks, shows etc.

Plus you'll see a lot of different ethnicities, so if thats not your thing best to avoid.

Bingo. And you I'm sure you agree the worst thing ever to happen from a nationalist perspective