Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

After Trump torpedoed the deal, they withdrew from the restrictions. All of this is down to Trump. All of it.

If you're bothered commenting on such a serious topic I shouldn't have to do your research for you but here you go. A quick Google will show endless reports regarding Iran's lack of cooperation with the IAEA. Even anti Israeli sites like Al Jazeera have been reporting it. For someone like you not to know about this while being invested in the debate you either refuse to acknowledge the truth or you just can't face the truth. Here you go straight from the IAEA.

"From 8 May 2019 onwards, however, Iran stopped implementing its nuclear-related commitments
under the JCPOA on a step-by-step basis until, on 23 February 2021, it stopped implementing them
altogether, including the Additional Protocol. As a result, Iran no longer allows the Agency to conduct
the following verification and monitoring activities in relation to the JCPOA:
 Monitor or verify Iranian production and stocks of heavy water (paras 14 and 159
).
 Verify that the use of shielded cells at two locations, referred to in the decision of the Joint
Commission of 14 January 2016 (INFCIRC/907), are being operated as approved by the Joint
Commission (para. 21).

Implement continuous monitoring to verify that all centrifuges and associated infrastructure

in storage remain in storage or have been used to replace failed or damaged centrifuges (para. 70).

 Perform daily access upon request to the enrichment facilities at Natanz and Fordow,

including to monitor Iran’s production of stable isotopes (paras 71 and 51).

 Verify in-process low enriched nuclear material at enrichment facilities as part of the total

enriched uranium stockpile (para. 56).

 Verify whether or not Iran has conducted mechanical testing of centrifuges as specified in

the JCPOA (paras 32 and 40).

 Monitor or verify Iranian production and inventory of centrifuge rotor tubes, bellows or

assembled rotors; verify whether produced rotor tubes and bellows are consistent with the

centrifuge designs described in the JCPOA; verify whether produced rotor tubes and bellows have

been used to manufacture centrifuges for the activities specified in the JCPOA (paras 80.1 and

80.2); verify whether rotor tubes and bellows have been manufactured using carbon fibre which

meets the specifications agreed under the JCPOA.10

 Monitor or verify the uranium ore concentrate (UOC) produced in Iran or obtained from any

other source; and whether such UOC has been transferred to the Uranium Conversion Facility

(UCF) (paras 68 and 69).

 Verify Iran’s other JCPOA nuclear-related commitments, including those set out in Sections

D, E, S and T of Annex I of the JCPOA.

7. This has seriously affected the Agency’s JCPOA-related verification and monitoring activities.

The situation was exacerbated in June 2022 by Iran’s decision to remove all of the Agency’s

JCPOA‑related surveillance and monitoring equipment. As a result of not having been able to perform

JCPOA-related verification and monitoring activities for four years, the Agency has lost continuity of

knowledge in relation to the production and current inventory of centrifuges, rotors and bellows, heavy

water and UOC, which it will not be possible to restore.

The source is the IAEA website. You can go there and read the reports yourself. I'm not giving you a link because you should be spending time to research this yourself before arguing against those who have. And that's just a taster from the report. Can I ask you where your grá for the islamic dictatorship comes from?

Looks possible

As if that justifies Iran's actions. My drivel comes straight from the IAEA. Keep burying your head in the sand buddy.

Why has Iran enriched Uranium to 60% when you only need 20% for energy production ? Why waste all that extra time & effort ? Why not open their facilities for the World to inspect ?

But if you are focusing on 20% enrichment for peaceful use, why would you worry about the Americans or anyone else seeing it ?

I was reading somewhere that the cost of running the Iron Dome at the moment with the amount of missiles being used was circa 280 million dollars a day.There is probably a lot of credibilty to what is being said here as the Iranians are flooding the Iron Dome keeping it busy while it flies it hypersonic missiles in which are proving very effective.

It will be interesting to see what happ3ns now.

Regardless of who is the president of America the evil islamic regime should never have persued such a dangerous program.

I get why they did it but it doesn't make it right. Tbh it was pretty stupid of them not to cooperative. The Israeli's run the western world and they openly state they wanted to erase Israel while developing thousands of ballistics while in a position where they'd never be too far away from nukes if they wish.

Pulling out of the IAEA inspections (unrestricted) effectively removed any good faith they had.

Reading the reports it seems that they were far from open & cooperative. Enriching above 20% only serves one purpose & sends a warning to the world. If you proclaim that you want the destruction of Israel, fund proxies to attack merchant shipping etc, it hardly says you want peace.

It is odd when we weigh things up.

Israel which is undoubtedly committing genocide via starvation and military murder is being protected from the only country that's actually responding to that genocide with something more that "thoughts and prayers", which is the standard EU reaction.

"If you proclaim that you want the destruction of Israel"

I see people use this excuse all of the time.

North Korea threatens South Korea on a regular basis but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed

Pakistan and India have been threatening to destroy each other for decades but are allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed.

China has been threatening Taiwan for decades but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed.

Russia has literally invaded another country but is allowed Nukes and doesn't get bombed

Meanwhile, we have been hearing for decades how Iran is mere weeks away from perfecting a nuke and they get bombed.

It's not nitroglycerin, so I'm sure it's OK to move in the sense that it won't explode if you jostle it about too much.

As for the logistics of it, I have no idea, but you'd have to think they'd have disaster preparedness and safety protocols which call for the uranium to be quickly removed and transported elsewhere and therefore have procedures on how to do it. It's a highly sensitive site containing, or potentially containing, billions of dollars worth of fissile material. You need these contingencies in place, B2 bomber or no B2 bomber.

Israel is committing genocide and no nation aside from Iran is opposing that genocide.

The US led version of civilisation doesn't seem to involve Palestinians.

Iran didn't create the Palestinian annexations by Israel, that's been ongoing since 1948 but now it's in all out genocide mode with no one except Iran showing any opposition to it.

Israel is a terrorist state and the USA its primary protector. Ukrainians have more in common with Palestinians in that the USA is siding with the invader. Trump leaving the G& while muttering about his buddy Putin not being there just shows who the real terrorists are.