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  • 24-05-2025 11:28PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭


    Hi, end goal here is to bring WiFi connection to a shed that it's about 40m from house, looking for advice on how best to achieve this based on current set up...

    Current Set Up: I have a Google Nest WiFi mesh set up in my house. I have run a Cat 5 cable from the house to a shed, distance of approx 40m.

    I want to get a device that I can use on the house that can connect to the WiFi mesh set up and has a port that I can connect my new cat 5 cable to. In the shed I want a device I can connect the other end of the cat 5 cable to and that will also transmit a WiFi signal in the shed that I could connect a smart TV (as an example).

    Any thoughts or recommendations on best options to achieve this?

    Thanks in advance!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,176 ✭✭✭✭con747


    Powerline adapter any use if you have power going from the house to the shed? https://www.tp-link.com/us/powerline/

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    House side, can you run that cat5e from the shed to your main Internet router? If so, there should be a free port there. If you can't, you'll either end up using a power line devices to get back to your main Internet router (not great or fast) or a wireless bridge device. Again, not great.

    On the shed side, you could just get another of the same mesh units and connect it to that cat5e in the shed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    On the house side, I can't get the cat 5 cable back to the main router. So have been trying with a power line plug + extender to connect the cat 5 cable to. Still a work in progress but fingers crossed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,446 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Cool, fingers crossed - speed wise the powerline unit most likely won't reach the adverised speeds. All dependant on house wiring, what sockets on what breaker and more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Just coming back to this.. I thought it was working but when I tried to use it today I could see that the tp link wifi extender signal for my phone to connect to but when I connected to it I kept getting a message on my phone saying wifi network cannot connect to Internet.

    I've tried plugging the 'shed end' of the cat 5 cable into a laptop with an Ethernet port and it is able to connect fine.. so I think I have it isolated to the tp link wifi extender but having tried to reset it I'm not able to fix it…

    There might be some setting I need to enable on the tp link device but not sure what it is or the more Google the more I am thinking I am trying to use it for something it's not meant to.. Any ideas on what could be causing the issue on the to link adapter?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    The WiFi extender would have to support an “Access Point Mode” which would be in its settings, not all of them have it. You can let me know the name of it and I can check.

    https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1143/

    What might be a better option for you is just getting a router that lets you put it into “Access Point Mode”, most routers have this. You could also get a separate network switch and a wireless access point if you really wanted to, but not needed.

    https://amzn.eu/d/cLgusq5



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    Sorry if im missing something stupid, but if you have a Cat5 cable going to the shed, would you not just buy another google nest for the shed and connect that via cable? You then have the same SSID for seamless roaming and can control everything from the Nest App? I have a similar set up with a garden cabin (Deco Mesh) and thats what i do, from reading the following article it seems like its supported and all Nest models have this capability? (Ethernet Port)

    https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7215624?hl=en

    From the house end, i presume that shed cable terminates back to where your internet router is and your main Google Nest is hard-wired into your router, so you would just need to plug in the ethernet port to your ISP Router,

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    Or if you dont have sufficient ports on your ISP router, then buy a mini 5 GB port switch, and plug in your nests and ISP router into it so they are all on the same LAN.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yes another Google Nest could be hardwired also but the Nest WiFi Pro is not backwards compatible, and AFAIK it's hard to find any other model around. @digitalsystem has mentioned above they can't get an ethernet cable back to the main router so is using powerline to get as close to shed inside of the house, i presume, then using ethernet to the shed.

    Even just adding any extender or router in access point mode and giving it the same SSID should work.

    You also shouldn't need to connect the ISP router, the replacement system should be able to connect directly to the ONT with PPPoE or DHCP/IPoE depending on the ISP and also VLAN ID 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭allybhoy


    He says this…

    "Current Set Up: I have a Google Nest WiFi mesh set up in my house. I have run a Cat 5 cable from the house to a shed, distance of approx 40m"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    It's mentioned in a comment after the original post -

    "On the house side, I can't get the cat 5 cable back to the main router. So have been trying with a power line plug + extender to connect the cat 5 cable to. Still a work in progress but fingers crossed"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Hi, thanks for the help on this. The TP Link device is TP Link AV1000 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Extender. TL-WPA7617



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    That was what I was thinking when I ran into the issues with the TP Link device. I bought a second hand device that I will get end of next week. So the new set up should look something like this… Will see how it goes..

    Internet Set Up.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Oh right okay, so because you already have the Cat 5 to the shed you don’t want to use powerline all the way to the shed, you would use them in this way if you didn’t have Cat 5 running to the shed. So you only need an ordinary powerline kit, not one with an access point built in.

    Google Nest Main Unit (Router) > Powerline adapter

    Then the cat 5 to the shed, connect that to the other powerline inside of the house, I presume you’ll want it plugged in somewhere near the back door as to not have a wire showing too much inside the house.

    You will still then need an access point inside of the shed to connect the other end of the Cat 5 to. A router put it in “Access Point Mode” is probably the easiest - https://amzn.eu/d/cLgusq5

    You could just just connect that powerline to a socket inside the shed and not use the Cat 5 at all but it mightn’t have a great connection and when you have the Cat 5 it would be a shame not to use it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Just to close this one out, the setup I showed above worked for me. I connected the new Google wifi router to the mesh in the house first. Then I moved it out to the shed, connected to the Ethernet cable. I restarted the Google wifi router on the house end of the Ethernet cable and once it was powered back up all was connected. Thanks for all the tips and suggestions on this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Good to hear. Just to add that having the ISP router still connected with just the WiFi off would have double NAT, it’s not a big issue as long as you don’t need port forwarding but it is very straightforward to remove the ISP router all together.

    Connect the Google router to NBI ONT. PPPoE username and passwords for all the ISPs are all over Boards and you just need VLAN ID 10. If you are with eir then you don’t need PPPoE, just select IPoE/DHCP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭digitalsystem


    Thanks for this, are you saying to connect the Google router to the nbi ont and then connect the ISP router to the Google router? Or remove the ISP router from the set up altogether?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Yeah you would remove the ISP router altogether



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