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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • #1982
    amacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,326 ✭✭✭amacca


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567057#Comment_123567057

    Oh I agree, I just think crazed lunatics is too kind a term........they either know what they are at or they are morons of the highest order etc

    I can't quite think of the correct term for the likes of them.....dregs?...the kinds of humans that leave you speechless and more disappointed in your own species than you thought was possible...



  • #1983
    michael-henry-mcivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566538#Comment_123566538

    Tel Aviv bot in to oblivion-



  • #1984
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567040#Comment_123567040

    it is 100% hurting both countries, but Israel is smaller and more dependent on FDI which is massively curtailed lately because of the ongoing conflict.

    Iran is much larger and missiles in one part will not impact others, life goes on as usual. And Iranian manufacturing is much cheaper than Israeli and western countries Israel buys arms from.



  • #1985
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    If Iran can weather the Israeli attacks their stature in the Middle East will increase. This will be hugely unwelcome by the family dictatorships in the Arab oil states. Despite rivalry between Shia and Sunni, a Muslim country standing toe to toe with Israel and not kowtowing to the US will impress many living under dynastic dictatorships.
    That Iran has an indigenous weapons industry, which appears quite sophisticated, in missiles at least, is a major difference to their Arab neighbours who simply trade energy for foreign weapons.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #1986
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭circadian


    I wonder if Gal Gadot will be hosting screenings of the Sky News documentary Doctors on the Frontline.

    Maybe the Israeli state media would be open to broadcasting it? Might be worth sitting members of their government down and forcing them to watch it just like they made the freedom flotilla members forcibly watch the Oct 7th atrocities?

    Who am I kidding? They'd watch it and probably love it.



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  • #1987
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Hmmmmm

    https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1936441955614908883

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #1988
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567226#Comment_123567226

    Wow. If Trump attacks before the 2 week deadline he gave expires it will be such a stroke of genius. Never mind The Art of the Deal, he must be reading the Art of War 🙄

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #1989
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566816#Comment_123566816

    So is Germany getting back the land it lost after WW2 as well? People seem to have inconsistent views on what land should be given back. Look at the size of Israel compared to the countries that seem bent on its destruction.



  • #1990
    Sudden Valley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think people have a major issue with israel continuing to colonise the West Bank. Under international law that is illegal so doesn't really matter how small Israel thinks it is or how large it thinks it's should be but if it continues to thumb it's nose at intnerational law it won't win many friends.



  • #1991
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Well, makes sense to depart a warzone

    https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1936464108724842580/photo/1

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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  • #1992
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Looks like the peacemakers only deal could be collapsing soon.

    Yemen to strike all US military and commercial vessels in the Red Sea and Bab el-Mandeb Strait if US starts war with Iran

    Yemeni Houthis spokesman Yahya Sari

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1993
    combat14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567542#Comment_123567542

    it will be war with the religious fantatics in both iran and yemen if that happens



  • #1994
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,422 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    If I were Russia, looking to mess with the US, I'd be offering Iran protection under their nuclear umbrella, in exchange for more assistance with their war in Ukraine. Similar to what the US does with NATO countries. Station some bombs at Iranian bases, negotiate a port for the Russian navy.



  • #1995
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,201 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Trump has sent B-52's to Iran. Not cool .



  • #1996
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,415 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567541#Comment_123567541

    Just proves the point that they are not really natives



  • #1997
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,415 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567604#Comment_123567604

    versus the religious fanatics in both Israel and the USA



  • #1998
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    B2's are landing in Guam.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #1999
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭circadian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567420#Comment_123567420

    You're making my point for me. No Germany is not getting land it took during WW2.

    Did I say Israel should cease to exist or that they should all be forcibly removed? No.

    What I did say was that the state needs total reform to ensure other groups who aren't Jewish (or even some Jewish groups who are marginalised) have fair and equal rights.



  • #2000
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567606#Comment_123567606

    Iran never wanted a mutual defence clause in it's recent treaty with Russia which went into Iranian law this week. They did however commit not to persue the development of nuclear weapons though.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #2001
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,546 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567010#Comment_123567010

    The point is, calling for political change can sometimes result in the end of a 'country' existing within the borders it currently occupies. Calling for a country to no longer exist (eg, all the Scottish nationalists and NI nationalists want the 'UK' to no longer exist. It doesn't make them psychos or extremists)

    No country or political regime has a 'right to exist'. They exist for as long as they can maintain stability and the support of their population, and in the normal course of history, nations, countries, regimes change all of the time.

    Any government can become despotic and if a government oversteps the boundaries of decency and human rights, then the people have a right to protest against them, and ultimately overthrow them and remake the political landscape in a new form.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • #2002
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,546 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567042#Comment_123567042

    Yeah, anyone who claims that Iran would just nuke Israel the moment they get a nuclear bomb is engaged in racist propaganda of the most crude variety.

    The idea that the Iranian regime are motivated entirely by pure hatred of the Jewish state a thousand miles away, such that they would happily destroy themselves just for the chance to strike Israel is ridiculous, and completely opposite to the evidence, which is Israel attacking first and Iran and their neighbours showing restraint and asking for ceasefires.

    I think the world would be much better off if everyone disarmed their nuclear stockpiles, but that's not gonna happen, so as long as western countries are permitted to violate principles of non proliferation, then it is rational self defence for their adversaries to also arm themselves with a nuclear deterrent.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #2003
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,546 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567226#Comment_123567226

    Yay

    There were rumours that Trump was waiting for the weekend to bomb Iran because he didn't want to crash the stock market by attacking them on a week day (as if they won't just crash on Monday morning)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #2004
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,834 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Twitter and Reddit are reporting hits in the Iranian Navy but can't find a trustworthy source yet? Anyone find anything?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #2005
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,454 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123565339#Comment_123565339

    😅🤦🏼



  • #2006
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566537#Comment_123566537

    No-one will win this war.



  • #2007
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567839#Comment_123567839

    Israel are by far the most aggressive and violent country in the region but have somehow managed to convince their millions of fanboys in the West that they are the most peaceful and operating purely out of self defence all the time.



  • #2008
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566592#Comment_123566592

    They are - likely if this continues much longer, the credit rating agencies will downgrade Israel again.

    Must be awful for those Israelis who know that this is all wrong. Two of their leaders off to The Hague for War Crimes, the State in front of the ICJ for Genocide, lots of Israelis leaving, the economy tanking, constant air raid sirens, normal daily life impossible.



  • #2009
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566680#Comment_123566680

    if the daily cost to Israel is circa 300M, that aid covers about 2 months.



  • #2010
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567040#Comment_123567040

    Israel has been spending fortunes in razing Gaza, attacking Lebanon, taking Golan and demolishing Palestinian homes in the West Bank for the last 18 months.

    Given that Iran hasn't been spending that kind of money, I'd assume their war chest is far healthier than Israel's - even accounting for external support for Israel.

    It would be interesting to see actual numbers though.



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  • #2011
    SeanW
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,619 ✭✭✭SeanW


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123567029#Comment_123567029

    In other words "No Jews, No News?"

    https://u24.gov.ua/
    Join NAFO today:

    Help us in helping Ukraine.



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