Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

This thread is incredible. Can't say I was expecting to be warned to look at Nebuchadnezzar as a lesson from history while sitting down to my cornflakes.

That's what's so hilarious about of all of this nonsense about Jews in Israel. The idea that Jehuda from Brooklyn, the great grandson of Joshua from Poland, has any more rights to land in Palestine over Mohamed who's family has been living there for centuries is bloody ludicrous.

We can now see why Israel went out of their way to browbeat a lot of countries into adopting the IHRA definition of antisemitism, which has a number of items that prohibits criticism of Israel as "antisemitic". It allows them to be the abuser, while endlessly claiming that they are being abused.

I don't think world opinion is against what Israel is doing in Gaza. The US and Europe are happy giving Israel free reign to do what they want. I don't think a few politicians mouthing off but not doing anything are relevant. Also, outside of the US and Europe I'm not sure how relevant other countries opinions are either, especially when they will do nothing about it.

Make no mistake, if Iran somehow looked like they could win this war then the US and Europe would unleash hell on them.

Just reading that Israel daily attacks are costing $200mill.

That's a huge amount of money each day, especially as have been spending it for nearly 2 years now.

They aren't being given free weapons by their allies, so how come they aren't heavily indebted?

Problem is the useless UN. US veto everything that is put against Israel after being approved by majority of countries.

As my mother pointed out to me when I was a child, the Palestinians are Semites as much as the Jews are, so the term antisemitic is ironic.

The bills gonna get a lot higher the way Israel are going

By this logic no one owns this land. In fact the Ottoman Empire (Turkish imperialism) was broken up after WW1 so no one is really entitled to this land after that either just look at the maps for Germany at the time, are Germans entitled to get that land back too? The Ottoman’s lost, they were broken up and after WW2 the land was given back to Jewish people.

An absurd point to make. It wasn't anyone's to "give back". This completely ignores generations of evolving demographics, migrations and other changes.

Why is it that Israel was allowed to be created in this way but not greater Egypt or Iraq in the area instead? Surely that'd just be returning to them.

I understand the point of Jews needing a safe haven after the Holocaust. They still would have faced some sort of persecution in Europe. However, this doesn't justify creating an Etho-religious state build on persecution and expulsion of others.

They had the chance to create a functioning, egalitarian state where all ethnic and religious groups were offered fair and equal rights.

Instead we have a state that actively seeks to punish and expel those who are different. This is very obvious when going to bomb shelters that Palestinians, Bedouins and others are excluded by their neighbours. The Bedouin who it is not uncommon for to work with the IDF.

An apartheid state

Maybe the USA can carve out the equivalent land mass on their terroritory with highest numbers of Israeli supporters and hand it over for a new state.

Four sources are picking this up. Either a test run using a weapon of high destruction or prepping for the main event

Lots of people identify as Northern Irish. I'm Irish but I would also consider myself Northern Irish because there is a clear distinction of historical experiences from the rest of Ireland.

Something I'm reminded of on a fairly often basis by ignorant statements like "nobody up there considers themselves as Northern Irish."

Edit: just checked the last census, almost 20% identified as Northern Irish only.

I know this is way back in the thread...but to call Cruz a grade A religious lunatic/fanatic is being way way too complimentary....these people think with that part of their brain concerned with grabbing everything from everyone and getting to the top no matter what...every other part of their brain is a wasteland filled with dust and tumbleweed where morality, logic, decency and grace are just a long forgotten memory carried on the wind blowing through

It speaks volumes when the likes of Tucker Carlson appears to be asking sane questions....

Such a pile of steaming dogshit that has floated to the top in recent times.....

If there was logic nevermind empathy amongst the current leadership of any of these countries and amongst a significant number of actual brainless fanatics that engineered their rise and convinced complete morons to vote for them we wouldn't be seeing half of this....

Tucker Carlson may be an unpleasant person with some distasteful opinions, but he is still totally sane and rational compared to those religious lunatics like Cruz on the American Right. They are crazed warmongers who wouldn't even baulk for a moment at genocide being carried out in their name.