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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,415 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The cheek of the man coming out with this, maybe he will set up a go-fund me page for his inconvenience

    Benjamin Netanyahu has just left Soroka hospital in Beer Sheva. He toured the site and gave a statement to the press.“There are personal costs, people have been hurt, families have lost their loved ones. Each of us bears a personal cost, and my family has not been exempt – this is the second time that my son Avner has cancelled a wedding due to missile threats. It is a personal cost for his fiancee as well, and I must say that my dear wife is a hero, and she bears a personal cost.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    While American technology is superior it must be concerning that some Iranian missiles can still get through with David’s sling and America’s thaad. If nuclear war ever took place American cities would be destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,095 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    It is a goal though which you at 2:31 denied. Though there does seem to be a contradictions between what the defence minister and foreign minister is saying. Leaving the regime in place does seem to be just kicking the can down the road for future israelis to have to deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,958 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am increasingly bewildered why Netanyahoo hasn't figured out a way to shut Katz and Ben Gvir up. They do so much damage to Israel's already tattered reputation and constant get the regime into trouble, especially in relation to Gaza. In any other government cabinet they would be sidelined or gagged by now. They are a law unto themselves and are constantly revealing the true Israeli intentions. Strange. The cabinet meetings must be a farce.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,415 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Thread 10 is an attack by Israel on a tented family in Gaza, not sure why the poster included that in his thread of Iranian missile attacks

    10.In a new massacre just moments ago,Israel bombed a displaced family’s tent in Al-Shati Camp, west of Gaza City, killing and wounding the family and others nearby, including children who were burned to death (video of a burned baby)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,624 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The goal is to eliminate Iran's nuclear capacity. From what I have read, if there is consequential regime change, that would be welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Don't forget Iron Dome… Israel has so many defense systems that Iran must be really going gung-ho to have hit that hospital



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Tel Aviv being bombed in the middle of the day for the seventh day running (with the city's residents hunkered down in air raid shelters and bunkers) and yet the regime's supporters are telling us how brilliantly the war is going from Israel's point of view. (Incidentally, Israel has never been hit by hypersonic missiles in its 80 year history……until now).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I was listening to the news on Newstalk and they had a soundbite from Benjamin Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu praises Trump as he visits site of hospital strike

    Benjamin Netanyahu has been speaking outside the Soroka Hospital, in Beer Sheba, in the last few minutes.

    The Israeli prime minister visited the site in southern Israel after it was hit by an Iranian missile attack.

    Here's what he said when asked about American involvement in the region:

    "President Trump will do what's best for America.

    "I trust his judgement, he is a tremendous friend, a tremendous world leader, a tremendous friend of Israel and the Jewish people.

    "And we will do what we have to do, and we are doing it.

    "We are committed to destroying the threat of a nuclear annihilation against Israel.

    "But I have to say that the partnership with the United States, the partnership with President Trump, with whom I speak to almost every day, is incredible.

    "I think his resolve, his determination and his clarity when he says Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon, and for that to take place, Iran cannot enrich uranium.

    "It's as simple as that.

    "He gave them the chance to do it through negotiations, they strung them along.

    "You don't string along Donald Trump, you know, he knows the game, and I think that we're both committed to making sure that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon and they won't."

    Talk about kissing @$$. Israel have complete control over Iranian airspace, taken out their top military and scientific brass, have destroyed the majority of Iran's missile launchers, etc. They seem incapable of defending themselves, and yet Israel claims that Iran are months away from having nuclear weapons. This despite US officials having previously stated this isn't true.

    As well as...

    IAEA Head: “We Did Not Have Any Proof” of Iran Building Nuclear Weapon

    https://truthout.org/articles/iaea-head-we-did-not-have-any-proof-of-iran-building-nuclear-weapon/

    Benjamin Netanyahu: "You don't string along Donald Trump, you know, he knows the game."

    Really? So what is it that Putin has been doing? But you won't cross him. Why is that, I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Hospital hit by missile in Israel..... this is a disgrace. Headline news.

    Meanwhile not a hospital left in Gaza…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Over egging the pudding there, I think.

    In the main up to now, I can imagine the IDF thinking of how sasy it is to pick off Iranian assets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,279 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Such a quote fits the psychopathy of Netanyahu perfectly.

    He's responsible for cancelling thousands of lives, but cries because his son has to cancel his wedding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,768 ✭✭✭circadian


    The entirety of Gaza flattened. Tens of thousands killed. Millions on the brink of starvation, homeless and getting killed any time they go for aid.

    "It's a terrible day, my son had to cancel his wedding again."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,106 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I don't think Israel being hit with missiles for a week was part of the script somehow. Anti-regime journalists say the public mood in Tel Aviv last Friday was positively ecstatic when they heard Iran was being bombed - one wonders what the mood is now after 14 separate missile attacks on the city, including attacks now coming in the daytime and broad daylight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭RoscommonHero


    Netanyahu is evil. He lies and kills. That's all he does. Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria and now Iran. He is directly or indirectly behind all of these wars. Light the fire, step away and watch the place burn. He loves it. And he knows his big bully brother (US) has his back as he sows destruction, chaos and suffering everywhere he goes. He is like a living demon.

    Everyone of those "wars" in the Middle East has been an absolute and unmitigated disaster with incredibly damaging long-term consequences, not just for the country affected, but for the entire world. Civil wars, terrorist attacks, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, European migration crisis, American debt, global economic turmoil etc. etc.

    And here he goes again for round 7. Back in the 80's he was telling the Americans that if they eliminated the Soviets it would end terrorism as USSR would no longer be in a position to fund the PLO, and all would be well in the world. And since then it has been one fairytale after another from weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to Iran having full nuclear capability in 1 - 3 years (he has been saying this since the 90's), all these lies so that he can just torch more of his neighbours and feel powerful. And the Americans lap it up, and Europe sucks it up and babies get blown up and the world burns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    It's everything to do with your post actually. Perhaps you just missed the point.

    If a military force stuck to the rules of war and didn't attack without reason, didn't execute innocent civilians (including their own) and didn't allow the starvation of 2 million people, sure. Let the IDF and whoever they want to go to war with have it out in the desert. Just leave the civilians out of it.

    Your post sounds a lot like that aged old phrase uttered by children - "my dad's bigger than your dad". There is no glory in war - if you believe the IDF poster boys are top dog and will whip anyone's backside, fill your boots. If that's the result of the current conflict, supporters can stand on the hill and crow victory to the world. And the world will weep.

    As for me giving anyone carte Blanche for violence, you're clearly mistaking me for someone else. But I'm well aware it's a common tactic - and won't succeed this time either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Annihilate civilisation with what? Vapourware nuclear bombs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 260 ✭✭tarvis


    30 Palestinian owned shops in the West Bank destroyed today by the Israeli army - ( Al Jazeera news) thereby destroying to livelihoods of their owners.


    Under the cover of bombing Iran, Israel is continuing to kill Palestinians queuing for food on a daily basis - horror upon horror on so many fronts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Guess they have to make a few bob now to pay for the 250m per day of operating iron dome. So yes, I'd imagine they are worried - Israeli economy has been tanking for over a year now.

    That's the cost Israelis will have to support for the ego of their alleged War Criminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I'm sure the IDF expected Iran to fire missiles back at Israel and there was zero chance the IDF could eliminate all rockets and launchers before Iran had a chance to retaliate.

    1000015698.jpg

    There's an unmistakable trend you can see on that chart. Latest update is 2/3 of Iran's launchers have been destroyed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,637 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Radiological and chemical contamination recorded from the Natanz nuclear facilities due to the apartheid states breaking of international law by bombing nuclear facilities.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Israel doesn't get to set that goal, as for regime change that is for the Iranian people to decide and not a crazed, mass murdering lunatic like Netanyahu and his cronies in the EU and Washington. This is the Iraq playbook all over again...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    No offence but I'll take the ICJ's word for it. Their interpretation of the law would be definitive. Your interpretation is way off the mark - why do you think the legal definition uses words like "whole or in part" instead of "50%"?

    The case for Israel committing Genocide was found plausible - so much so, the ICJ issued interim measures, twice, for Israel to implement. Which Israel ignored - twice. And they are still starving 2 million people. When the ICJ give their verdict, we'll all know. I'd imagine the evidence files for a ruling of Genocide are simply bulging even now.

    But sure, perhaps we'll have this discussion again when the Palestinian dead reaches "a bit more than 3%"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Where are these 'reports' coming from. Can you link them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A lot of naval gazing in that post.

    But I have not once seen you criticise Iran in this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    God love him - I'd bet he's worried that another visit to New York, staying in a presidential suite and quaffing champers and lobster, will directly affect him fitting into his wedding suit.

    Hope his aircraft doesn't suffer a malfunction and have to land in an ICC signatory country - he'll defo miss the wedding then. He can cry on Duterte's shoulder.

    I can imagine the Israeli Hostage families are apoplectic at such a tone deaf statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,964 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Defense against a barage of ballistic missiles raining down is a myth really. It's pretty much impossible because all you need is a handful of them to get through if they're nuclear armed and you're doomed.

    Remember this video from Ukraine. When they end their terminal phase and release their warheads sure it's over before you can react.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Simple - without either of them, the govt. falls.

    When the govt. falls, alleged war criminal #1 will be forced to attend his corruption trial and could spend a good bit of time in a cell nursing his rather large ego and listening to the wild celebrations going on outside.

    He doesn't want to silence them for another reason - he simply agrees with them.

    It's an utter disgrace they are leading innocent Israelis to the 9th circle of hell. But as well as hoping for a regime change in Iran, a regime change in Israel would be most welcome.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭Homelander


    London was being bombed daily by unstoppable ballistic missiles in 1945. Absolutely no-one, apart from the Nazi propaganda ministry, was claiming the war was going anything other than irreversibly terribly for Germany.

    But that is basically what you're trying to tell us.

    You seem to be clinging to this fantasy that because some ballistic missiles can get through, Iran is somehow prevailing, could possibly prevail, the conflict is equal both ways, or Israel is suffering in some unsustainable way.

    What's maybe more relevant is that Israel is so technically advanced by comparison the following is true.

    - 90%+ of ballistic missiles are not getting through, almost zero drones

    - Broadly speaking, these strikes from Iran are achieving nothing militarily or strategically

    - Civilian casualties are extremely light in the context of hundreds of ballistic missiles fired at Israel

    - Irans nuclear infrastructure has been heavily damaged

    - Irans air defense network has been functionally destroyed

    - Iran's airforce is non-existant and cannot do anything within its own airspace let alone further afield.

    - Half of Iran's senior leadership has been eliminated

    - Israel is destroying missile production facilities and launchers with relative ease given lack of Iranian defense

    - Iran missile strikes have decreased rapidly with each day the IAF has been doing the above

    If you think that all amounts to the war going poorly for Israel then I can't even begin to fathom what the war going well for Israel would look like.



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