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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,567 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The race to complete dictatorship continues in Russia.

    Mayoral elections will not take place because people can't be trusted to vote in the United Russia canditates. And different opinions that differ from United Russia are not good for cities. Apparently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Alex Jones changed his name?

    This kind of tin foil nonsense doesn't help anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    I'm assuming Vance and Elon are ripping into them ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Yes indeed. There’s talk about Trump hoping to win a Nobel Peace - maybe Putin will get there first 😝



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭zv2


    A billboard in Russia: "I love. I serve. I protect."

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    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,131 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That would be why Krasnov was the leader at the G7 meeting in Canada who declined to sign the joint statement calling on Israel and Iran to kiss and make up.

    Exactly what I would have done to show I'm peace prize material, were I in his shoes.

    I don't suppose Putrid wanting this little fracas to go on as long as possible, might have anything to do with Krasnov's opting out of peace, given the increase in the oil price has thrown the Orc economy a big fat lifeline?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Another day, another Iranian Shaheed drone attack against civilian buildings

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/TcwdjWKlUn

    14 dead and 40 injured

    https://kyivindependent.com/kyiv-hit-by-russian-drones-and-ballistic-missiles-over-a-dozen-injured/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    The same posters (or re-registered) have been predicting Russia running out of weapons since May 2022. It's not going to happen, even if Russia is definitely weaker than it was.

    Another horrendous attack on Kyiv overnight by the Russian scum. At this stage it should be tit for tat, hit them back in the same way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭zv2


    Killing civilians does not achieve much for either side. Even as buildings in Ukraine are destroyed they are being rebuilt. Best to kill Russian soldiers and destroy their war effort.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    “At this stage it should be tit for tat, hit them back in the same way”


    Bravo you literally contradicted yourself in parallel thread post you made at the very same time

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    No the Ukrainians do not need to start retaliating against civilians like Israelis have done

    I have massive respect for their self control despite being attacked for another night with 400+ Iranian Shaheed drones



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭yagan


    Israel and Russia have closer links and methods than many can accept.

    Both don't see genocide as unacceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jon Doe


    At this stage it should be tit for tat, hit them back in the same way

    Why do you think it's a good idea for Ukrainians to engage in war crimes? So that some Westerners get to accuse them of being just like the Russians? "They're both birds of a feather… best to support neither of them!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    It can affect morale. And it doesn't have to be aimed at civilians. Hit the energy infrastructure, famous train station buildings, nationalistic culture sites at night. Big symbolic value



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    There is literally no connection between the two posts. You'll have to try harder with your "gotcha" attempts. You certainly spend enough time here to give it another shot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    But there is, here you are calling for Ukrainians to lower themselves into the same moral mudpit where Russians, Iranians and Israelis are slugging out and adopt same tactics of deliberately committing war crimes against civilians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    As I said to the other poster: you can hit civilian infrastructure while minimising casualties. Also as far as I'm concerned a retaliatory crime is less severe than an offensive crime. Which is why the allied bombing of Germany in 1940s is absolutely not comparable to what the Germans did to other countries. The aggressor bears much more responsibility



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    No I'm not, just read my posts, I draw a very clear distinction between aggressor actions and defensive actions and targeting infrastructure versus deliberately targeting civilians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭yagan


    Israel targets civilians always, and then apply them whatever strategic label in the aftermath, like a maternity ward been bombed actually saved lives as all the infants were Hamas masterminds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,897 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    At this stage it should be tit for tat, hit them back in the same way

    They hit residential blocks. Tit for tat means Ukraine hitting russian residential blocks; not civilian infrastructure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭rogber


    Well unlike some here I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep even if they did do that, while not advocating it.

    Germans also had to learn the hard way



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,621 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    On what possible grounds could Russia take a seat at the G7 (or G8). Their self-reported (i.e. massively inflated) GDP puts them as the 11th largest economy and the group is, as described on Wikipedia: organized around shared values of pluralismliberal democracy, and representative government. None of these values are present in Russia.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,557 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Except as proven by history it actually has the opposite effect; rather than demoralize the civilian population (intended effect) it hardened their will as they did not see any way out for themselves from being killed. Hence while you may get a warm fuzzy feeling in your heart over the idea it's actually counterproductive to the goal of Ukraine to do so. That's before we'd talk about the potential spin and negative effect it could be done by Russian propaganda bots in Europe to slow down new weapons, aid etc. to Ukraine if their weapons are seen as being used to attack civilians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭thomil


    The thing is that, whether it was the German air raids during the Blitz, the V2 bombardments of London, the strategic bombing campaign against the Third Reich, or even the ongoing Russian terror bombing campaign against Ukraine, these types of bombing campaigns do nothing to actually destroy the morale of the people being targeted. Look at the attitude shown by Londoners during the Blitz, or by the people in places such as Kyiv or Kharkiv in the present. If anything, they have gotten more defiant.

    It is not unreasonable to expect a similar effect to take hold in Russia, should Ukraine start raining missiles down on civilian targets. So why waste precious missiles on strikes that will not have any discernible effect on either the war, or the population being targeted? In my eyes, it’s better to save those munitions for continued strikes against depots, command facilities, air bases, naval facilities and other logistics targets, attacks that actually degrade the enemy’s ability to conduct this war.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-administration-disbands-group-focused-pressuring-russia-sources-say-2025-06-17/

    The Trump administration shelved in recent weeks an inter-agency working group it had set up to formulate strategies for pressuring Russia into speeding up peace talks with Ukraine, according to three U.S. officials.
    The effort, which was established earlier in the spring, lost steam in May as it became increasingly clear to participants that U.S. President Donald Trump was not interested in adopting a more confrontational stance toward Moscow, said the officials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    you would think,as "leader" of the free world,donnie vonshitzinpants would come out as strongly against russia as he has against iran…as someone said somewhere donnie is the bestest american president russia has ever had…he didnt even stay at the G7 conference to meet Zelenskyy,…why??

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    There’s no lack of military targets too

    Here a whole supply base gets taken out as soon as it got a delivery with JDAM-ER

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/s/khqG6kTufT

    Notice @brickster69 how the occupying Russian forces taken over what used to be a residential block (civilians whose homes these belong to are either dead, in Russian concentration camps or refugees) and the general state of destruction in Russian Mir



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,835 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Think Putin will tell Assad he's about to have a new house guest?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Infini


    To be fair the Axis of Assholes have been on the receiving end of the Dildo of consequences for the last while all because they couldn't leave things well enough alone, in Russia case invading a country outright that they really shouldn't have fucked with, in terms of Iran using their proxies to pull a 9/11 on Israel only to find out their friend in Syria getting evicted, their friends in Lebanon being the victims of Operation Grim Beeper and now they got Israel coming right for them and trying to pull the US into it too (and might succeed because the Ayatollah and friends might be stupid enough to touch 'murica's boats and because President TACO is stupid enough to wade into it).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Will these attacks on Iran stop the supply of drones to Russia?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,835 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Yes. But I think Russia had started making it themselves anyway.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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