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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    And exactly what did those proxies achieve? The deaths of many civilians, War Crimes and Genocide from Israel.

    Anyone is free to keep on painting Israel in a good light as much as they like - but the world sees what's going on and condemns it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Israel targetting news providers again, they certainly do not like news they cannot control



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Oh - a three-year old article about women (behind a paywall) will really really up my game? Sure.

    Seems you need to take your own advice.

    And you should read up on what Israel get up to - you might be surprised. But probably not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,390 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed, I understand a lot of people are angry at Israel at the moment, but cases of naivety and innocence about Iran's regime are something else. It's a brutal regime and is deeply unpopular among Iranian people who don't have a choice. I've lived and worked with Iranians, the stories from them are shocking. Lovely people, horrendous leadership.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,011 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Nobody is under any illusions about the regime in Iran. However, "…but Iran" isn't an excuse to let Israel off the hook for what their own "horrendous leadership" is doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,708 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Another warcrime brazenly carried out by the terrorist state



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    What Israel gets up to is plastered in newspapers and aired on Irish TV almost nightly. But it seems you have no clue on what the Iranian regime do internally to their own people, and have done for 46 years. Again read up on it. It may surprise you. Iran and its regime is the BIGGEST issue to peace in the Middle East.

    No ayatollahs, no proxies, no Hamas, no Hezbollah… the last escalation in Gaza would not have happened, you get the drift.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    That is why I linked that article, as the Economist did fantastic coverage of the minor revolution in Iran following the murder of Masha Amini by the Iranian Religious police.

    Sometimes you like to educate people, but alas, they are too stuck in their ways to even elevate their senses a bit.

    The fact that some with a straight face can claim that Iran was 'peaceful' before Israel attacked it is slapstick comedy.
    They are either too ignorant or too invested. Dare I say there might be another reason but of course they will deny it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    How is that possible? A woman - on Iranian TV? It can't be true - must be AI.

    Apparently, according to another post, the Iranian Regime eats women alive or something.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    On the war itself, it seems that Iran is getting its arse handed to it. Apparently, Israel now has air superiority over Tehran and much of the country. They are softening it up for further attacks.

    Only about 30% of its nuclear sites have been hit so far, but with air superiority now in its grasp, the IAF should have free rein to finish off the rest of it.

    There have been questions, though, about one site buried under a mountain that they may not be able to destroy with their weapons. That is when eyes turn to Donald to deliver the coup de grace.

    This will go on for a week or 2 yet, but Israel have the upper hand no doubt. But will they get what they want, regime change and complete destruction of Iran s nuclear sites?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    the last escalation in Gaza would not have happened

    Really? You might explain that in a bit more detail. Especially the bit about the killing of about 140,000 women and children. That seems to be the only escalation in Gaza.

    And without Netanyahu, there's be no Hamas in Gaza of course seeing as he allowed them to be fully funded. Israel even built tunnels for them. Seems he's now funding another criminal organisation in Gaza now. But as an alleged War Criminal (at large and evading an arrest warrant) currently on trial in Israel for corruption, its no surprise.

    The biggest issue to peace in the ME is those who steal land and occupy it illegally (per the ICJ) and are directly attacking their neighbours without provocation. And there's only one State doing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    So we're going from Israel attacking Iran to Israel targeting an imminent nuclear bomb threat to Israel to just bombing the **** out of Iran and telling people to leave Teheran to thats a great thing cos Iran is so bad anyway. Good luck to Israel Iran had it coming. Cos theyre the biggest threat to peace. Not like the USA or anything who blew up the entire region only 20 years ago with the place still reeling giving birth to ISIS whatnot. And being knee deep in the next blow up.

    The mental gymnastics of some people here is astonishing.

    As is the subtle but incessant propaganda on all news outlets. Russia perpetrated a brutal genocidal attack on its innocent neighbour. But Israel is in a 'conflict'. And Iranian retaliation are 'attacks' while Israel is surgically targeting nuke production facilities basically (see thread title in fact) which Iran recklessly placed into residential areas. Then we call immediately to use restraint with the Iranian reply, basically hand over the keys and present the other cheek. And if not you're the aggressor. USA at the ready to bomb Iran into the Stone Age. yay.

    You couldnt make this **** up. And people lap it up. 20 years after 'weapons of mass destruction' we're ready to rally behind the lies and the hypocrisy again. Congratulations. Its disgusting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The preemptive attack by Hamas on Israel is what led to this.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    it seems that Iran is getting its arse handed to it

    Seems the sympathy for the downtrodden Iranian civilians lasted all of 4 minutes.

    Your posts suggest you're really enjoying his.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Who funds and arms Hamas? There is your answer right there.

    Also, your casualty figures are off by a factor of 3

    As to the last point, If you honestly think that the West Bank and Gaza are the reason for the wider instability of the Middle East and the decades and hundreds of years of conflict, then sadly, I cannot even debate with you anymore. Read a book or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Gets nice fat cheques apparently for appearing on Iranian TV to give out about the 'Evil West'.

    Guys like him never change, but some lap it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,046 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The newsreader and staff knew they were about to be bombed and kept on broadcasting - that's bravery right there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Who funds and arms Hamas?

    See my previous post for the answer to that (hint - Netanyahu)

    And if you did a little background reading, you'll see my numbers are probably an underestimate.

    But you're right, there is no point debating it. You have your views, I have mine. But do go ahead and keep watching the Iranians having "their ar**s handed to them".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Would you want your wife or sister or mother or daughter be told to dress like that by some priests and battered (and worse) if caught on street without religious headgear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    I would prefer my wife, sister or mother to be told what to wear rather than be shot, bombed, burned and starved which is what Israel have been doing to women with support from posters here.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    See my previous post for the answer to that (hint - Netanyahu)

    Are you going on about 20 years ago or the past few years… if so you are being untruthful and disengenuous.

    Maybe I'll make it simple for you. Who funded Hamas for the October 7th attacks..

    Yes, Ill watch the Iranian regime have their arse handed to them and I hope the regime is overthrown and a more peaceful democratic Iran emerges free from the shackles of theocracy. The Middle East will be better overall because of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Mark: “Stop going on about 20 years ago”.

    Also Mark, the Jewish people have a right to the land they used to live on 2,000 years ago.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Safe to say you need to read up on the Womens Revolution of 2022-2023.

    Hundreds of women died for the right to be told NOT to wear or be beaten up by Religious Police.

    Not that you care for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Of course I wouldn't.

    Seems by your posts you'd just prefer Israel bombed and burned them all alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    I think both theocracies need to chill the **** out, but unlike some I don’t cheer on for a regime that not only starts wars abroad, helps bomb innocent people, but abuses its own population

    I call a spade a spade, some people can only understand binary us vs them and can’t appreciate that are many shades of evil in this part of world

    Posters often accuse Germans for not standing up to Israel because history, before proceeding to make the exact same mistake and assume just because the Iranian regime is willing to sacrifice every Palestinian they are somehow the good guys now.



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