Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

You are simply regurgitating debunked, deliberately mistranslated “quotes”.

The widely quoted phrase that Iran (or Ayatollah Khamenei) wants to “erase Israel from the map” is often misrepresented, and the original wording and context matter significantly.

The Original Phrase (2001)

In 2001, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reportedly said:

“It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to remove Israel from the region’s political geography.”

This was said during a speech to an Islamic conference, and it was not phrased as a military threat or literal call for violence. The term used in Farsi was more along the lines of:

“Sahne-ye siyasī-ye manṭeqeh” — “the political stage of the region” or “political map of the region.”

Common Mistranslation

The often-quoted phrase, especially in Western media — “wipe Israel off the map” — is most famously associated with former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (2005), not Khamenei in 2001.

But even Ahmadinejad’s quote was a mistranslation.

He quoted Ayatollah Khomeini, saying:
“Imam [Khomeini] said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”

• The original Farsi:
  “In rājim-e ishghālgar-e Qods bāyad az safhe-ye ruzgār mahv shavad.”
  Literal translation: “This regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the pages of history.”
• Not “wiped off the map” — there’s no word for “map” (naqshé) in the original sentence.

israelis claim to have taken out 1/3 of irans ballistic missile launchers last night if they keep this up iran will have to come up with some other options

The regime currently in charge of Iran is one of the most despicable in the world. The treatment of women and LGBTQ+ in that country is among the worst.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/iran-new-compulsory-veiling-law-intensifies-oppression-of-women-and-girls/

"Iranian authorities have adopted a new draconian law that further erases the human rights of women and girls, imposing the death penalty, flogging, prison terms and other severe penalties to crush ongoing resistance to compulsory veiling, Amnesty International said today."

Then there is their treatment of Christians

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/persecution/countries/iran/

"Unrecognised converts from Islam to Christianity face severe religious freedom violations, primarily from the government and, to a lesser extent, from society and their families. The government views these converts as a threat, believing they are influenced by Western countries to undermine Islam and the regime. Both leaders and ordinary members of Christian groups are often arrested, prosecuted and given long prison sentences for ‘crimes against national security’."

They are the ultimate sectarians.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62793573

"Under Iranian law, same-sex sexual conduct is a criminal offence, with punishments ranging from flogging to the death penalty."

I am not surprised, but deeply disappointed to see so many posters on here defending Iran, purely out of a visceral hatred of Israel.

The issue is clear cut Israel are not making the world safer by their illegal actions in Iran. They violate international law again and again without consequence because their big brother shields them. I am against what Russia is doing as I am Israel. Both Putin and Nethanyu belong in the Hague as far as I am concerned. The difference is you only think one of them should be there

I'd agree with this. From my perspective this is a needless escalation by Israel and is a purely cynical move to keep the current government in power. The other side is, the west should be much more pro-active in providing Ukraine with anti-air support to tackle the issue of the drones.

Would it be nice to see the Iranian regime gone? Sure, in certain circumstances. I had hopes a few years ago they'd be overthrown. However, a foreign military forcing a regime change is not a good thing, this has rarely, if ever, gone well in history.

I fear the world is being walked into a war by Israel, by escalating to the point that there will have to be some sort of intervention and that would most likely be on the side of Israel, rather than a neutral de-escalation.

Both governments are stacked high with war mongering assholes and the world would be a better place without either regime.

Probably just repurposing obvious facts in a more presentable way to make it sound like something it's not.

I've not seen a single shred of evidence of any F35 being shot down either so until there's any evidence presented I'd treat it the same gravitas as Iraqi State TV announcing the US army was driven back in counter-attacks.

But the 'existential threat to our existence' thing is allowing Israel justify all sorts of war crimes and probable genocide in Gaza.

And its probably more likely that Israel would drop a nuclear weapon on Tehran than the reverse happening (they are psychpathic enough and their maniacal fanboys in the West would be claiming 'they had little choice but to do it').

As we are disappointed that over multiple threads you refuse to condemn and even defend the killing of Irish peacekeepers by Israel.

Yes. I suspect it's just a desperate attempt to attain some kind of win. I think behind the scenes Iran is desperate for a way out. This is implied in a recent statement the Iranian foreign minister made to the Americans. Interestingly the BBC are reporting that Donnie told Bibi not to kill the Ayatollah.

Yes that's the scary thing. If Israel dropped a nuke somewhere it wouldn't be Israel's fault, they were made to do it would be the narrative by the apologists. We'd have Donnie supporting it. Meanwhile Kier would be calling on all sides to descalate. He might go further and say Israel was at risk of breaking international law.

There are posters here and on other threads defending a regime where religious extremists who are actively trying to bring about Armageddon are in power and who want to ritually slaughter and burn a red heifer to fulfil biblical prophecy.

A regime headed by wanted war criminals.