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Should Ireland start driving on the right side of the road?

  • 15-06-2025 02:45PM
    #1
    Posts: 0


    Now since the UK has left the EU Ireland is paying a lot more for car imports. I thought it would be a good idea if we switched over to the right. There would be a lot more of a selection from America and Europe and it would probably save people money.

    What do you think?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    No. What happens when you cross the border into NI?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭thejuggler


    Only if they phase it in gradually. Lorries and vans only for the first week…..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    The same as when you drive off the ferry from France?

    To OP; the biggest problem is honestly mainly going to be purely physical. For example take any motorway exits; suddenly they are all pointing the wrong way and would need to be redone and be ready at the same time. Apply that simple example across the board for any and all infrastructure in Ireland which would be complained about as wasted money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,334 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I'd like to see a full cost/benefit analysis before deciding.

    As @prawnsambo points out NI would be a problem if they didn't change too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭horse7


    A lot of people are driving on the right side already.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭SteM


    Obviously when you drive off the ferry into France there is a physical, very obvious, change. Where is that obvious change when driving into NI?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Id imagine the death toll would be horrific if this was ever tried. Any way drive on the same side of the as Japan, we should introduce a car tax model based on the more enlightened Japanese model that favour small economical cars.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    So all Irish registered right hand drive cars would now be driving on the right ie the driver at the hand shoulder side instead of towards centre line of road



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    The societal cost would be huge. Infrastructure changes and obsolete right hand drive cars alone would massively outweigh savings in purchasing left hand drive cars. Japanese cars would become more expensive. And who really wants American made cars?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,712 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    As newer cars are getting more automation, then the ability to swap driving side will get easier. If cars get closer to 'drive-by-wire', then the change over might be quite simple.

    On the other hand, the cost of changing just the road signs and road markings will be absolutely huge. Just imagine the cost of swapping actual cars from RHD to LHD, either by new LHD being purchase, conversion. Now imagine the cost of all the road collisions.

    This topic turns up as regularly as 3D tv. It ends just as quickly.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm assuming the Japanese cars are being manufactured and imported from the UK and not japan - I could be wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭PixelCrafter


    If we were going to do that we're about 70 years late. You'd have had to complete the switch over long before the volume of cars and the intensity of infrastructure was in place.

    Sweden did it, but they were already driving a lot of LHD cards at the time anyway and it was done in an era before the volume of traffic that's on the roads now.

    Loads of junctions aren't symmetrical and you'd end up with a total mess of consequences, way behind the issues with borders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,729 ✭✭✭✭User1998




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    There's a buffer zone there which is the ferry itself. You get on the ferry which is neutral and drive off on the other side of the road. You would need a similar buffer zone for every border crossing. And I'm struggling to even imagine what that would look like. Carnage comes to mind.

    I'm surprised this is being taken seriously. It's a non-runner for so many reasons.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    And compared to 270 border crossings to every exit on Irish motorways, runabouts etc. it's difficult how exactly? The NI issue is a non issue by comparison to what would need to be done in Ireland in general with comparable minimal rebuild requirements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    Rebuild every road junction, roundabout and motorway exit entrance in Ireland. On a timescale required to implement in one fell swoop. The cost would make the childrens hospital look like a cowshed, the death toll would run to several hundred, perhaps several thousand.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is there any RHD country that borders a LHD country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Well that's what we were discussing since I brought it up as a difficulty and you suggested it wasn't. I can't think of an easy method of switching cars from one side to the other without considerable expense. Motorway on-ramps become off-ramps and vice versa. Roundabouts likewise, just change direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,482 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Quite a few

    Usually sorted by a crossover bridge if the borders are heavily used, or just stop and slowly change sides if not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,239 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,877 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    We have one of these threads every couple of months on here.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Now since the UK has left the EU Ireland is paying a lot more for car imports.

    By the time we got around to making all the changes to convert to LHD the UK would probably be back in the EU/Common Market/Customs Union.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Silly idea unless the UK does the same thing. Imagine changing sides at the border, surely we'd also have to buy LHD vehicles going forward.

    Not impossible, but it would certainly drive another wedge between us and the rest of these islands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,324 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Can you imagine the chaos??

    We'd need an education programme with TV ads, and pamphlets to every house for about 10 years and 12% of the population would still be unaware that the change was going to go ahead. On the night before the changeover, there would be a Prime Time Special reminding people that the change over was happening at midnight that night, and some people would get confused and think we were changing back again.

    I think we should do it just for the comedic effect.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well at the very least it would deprive the UK of 5.4 million potential customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭The Helpful Engineer


    Considering most Irish drivers can't use motorways properly, driving on the outside land when the inside is empty, I don't think it would be a good idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Maybe they'll end up in the inside lane by default?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've had a look at the Numbeo cost comparison site. If you bought your car in Europe you could potentially save up to 10 grand.

    Volkswagen Golf 1.4

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=25&displayCurrency=EUR

    Toyota Corolla Sedan

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=206&displayCurrency=EUR



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    LHD is not going to vaporise high taxes on cars in Ireland

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,414 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    You'd have to live in Europe too. VRT not a thing there.



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