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Calf to beef thread

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  • #1262
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532541#Comment_123532541

    That's my point. OK I know they doing trials on bad, ok and good calves but at least give figures for the average.



  • #1263
    straight
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    Sold some of my "worthless byproduct" fr bulls from last year. They made an average of 1180 euro. A tiny angus heifer that wouldn't have made a tenner last spring made 1000 euro.

    Sold about 40 weaned angus calves. They averaged 700 euro.

    It's my first year since I started farming getting paid for calves.



  • #1264
    kk.man
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532658#Comment_123532658

    Fair play. In the beef game nothing is worthless you just need to recognise value.



  • #1265
    Bass Reeves
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532658#Comment_123532658

    It's all related to the price of beef. Last year a 300k DW AA heifer was making about 1550 euro, this year the same.e heifer was making 2400 euro until a few weeks ago. Finishers are passing it back to store men, store men passes it back to the calf producer. The kd that bought the tiny heifer probably over paid for her. The Fr bulls give optionnto the buyer. If they are 350ish kgs a finisher could get them to 330-350kgs DW after Christmas. If anything on present numbers you were overpaid last year.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #1266
    funkey_monkey
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    How do you all wean calves off CMR?

    Currently decreased it down to 2L one per day in the evenings. They would be eating over 1kg/day crunch plus straw.

    Do you just stop or go to every other day and then stop?

    They are old enough to be off milk, but I'm just not happy with a few that seem to continually empty looking.



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  • #1267
    _Brian
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    spoke to a farmer today that moved away from sucklers to calf rearing. Mid 60’s and feeling cows were just too much, on his own at home.

    He’s had a terrible time with coccidiosis running through the calves. He’d never seen it before and didn’t recognise just how serious it was until it had gotten hold. Lost a few calves, more awful poorly. He said it’s been a tough learning curve.



  • #1268
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123535607#Comment_123535607

    I do similar to you, gradually decreasing down to 2L once a day. They naturally eat more nuts as you decrease the milk. Then I just stop and out they go.

    Keep an eye on the few you think are empty looking. If they’re not eating the nuts when they’re off the milk, separate them out from the rest and let them get used to the nuts again in a field/paddock on their own.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1269
    Siamsa Sessions
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    If it’s any consolation you can tell him it happens to nearly everyone starting off and this will be his hardest year

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1270
    somofagun
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    Have bit the bullet and went with 20 3 months old Angus bulls. 1st year doing this system

    On a bit of straw/hay with 2kg of meal. If the weather would dry up I would like to get them out on grass.

    With the prices of the Charlie's & lims weanlings gone to dear I have had to drop down a few rungs on the ladder.

    I will be finishing these 20 hopefully by the 24 month mark but that a while away yet.

    Any thing I need to watch for bar your usual disease issues.



  • #1271
    WoozieWu
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    they wont respond to meal like a continental and will eat more for less weight gain



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  • #1272
    Bass Reeves
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543531#Comment_123543531

    When you get them.to grass a kg of ration is more than adequate, try to give them a 1-2 day allowance of grass try and get something else to graze out what is left. Keep them dosed I be inclined to five tgem a shot of multi min each when they go to grass. A bit of hay or dry silage out in the field will stop tgem from.getting loose.

    Come August cut them.back to 3/4 of a kg or less especially if you put them.into after grass. While tgey are not as efficient as a continental they need less ration overall. At times they may look a bit baggy but do not panic. Silage and 3/4 of a kg for the winter and minerals as well. Back out to grass and see what you have late July. Decide then which way you finish

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #1273
    morphy87
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543531#Comment_123543531

    When did you buy them? A fine bunch of animals



  • #1274
    somofagun
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    Only have them a week



  • #1275
    limo_100
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545181#Comment_123545181

    You get them in a mart or a local farmer? any harm to tell us roughly there cost? as I am looking for similar stock myself



  • #1276
    White Clover
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543692#Comment_123543692

    Bass, will you tell the man that this is what he should do if farming on good limestone land. If you tried rearing them calves on that starvation diet here, you wouldn't last long.



  • #1277
    kk.man
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123543593#Comment_123543593

    No they won't but you will compete with the the feedlots and they will ride ya. The best money I made was very poor cattle who nobody wanted last fall and I turned them to 2k from 700e. Yes their nice to look at but they don't pay the bills.



  • #1278
    weatherbyfoxer
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    The February born batch of calves are off meal today till the 1st of September hopefully.(grass quality and quantity permitting)

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    March born lads will get meal till mid July.. currently get 50kg of nuts per 26 calves but will be scaled back to 1kg over the next 2 weeks.

    No issues with grass scour this year thankfully Really important to make young calves graze slightly stemy paddocks for the first few weeks as the steamy stuff helps the rumen to get working properly.



  • #1279
    morphy87
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545547#Comment_123545547

    Great looking stock, worth a good few pound now



  • #1280
    weatherbyfoxer
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545600#Comment_123545600

    Thanks,..have actually had 2 random lads see them off the road passing by call in looking to buy them



  • #1281
    morphy87
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545620#Comment_123545620

    Go way!!! Were they farmers or dealers? I have never seen such a shortage of stock back this way, I even see the marts reckon there will be a very short of supply of handy dairy bred weanings this fall as so many animals were shipped out



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  • #1282
    weatherbyfoxer
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545645#Comment_123545645

    Farmers looking for weaned calves.Im thinking there will be a massive shortage of beef in the near future.



  • #1283
    morphy87
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545657#Comment_123545657

    Oh definitely, looking back you bought serious value now



  • #1284
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545201#Comment_123545201

    It’s the man’s own business what he paid for them but I was looking for similar stock over the past few weeks, and based on what I’ve seen, you’d do well to get weaned calves like that for less than €800.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1285
    morphy87
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545676#Comment_123545676

    I’m looking for a few myself like that and I think your spot on with the prices you have quoted, and there’s very few of these in the marts or for sale on done deal



  • #1286
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545657#Comment_123545657

    I can only guess lads who usually buy weanlings are dropping back into the weaned calves market rather than paying big money for weanlings this year.

    Best of luck to them but the weaned dairy-cross calf needs a different system compared to strong continental weanlings.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1287
    WoozieWu
    Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭WoozieWu


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123545309#Comment_123545309

    everyone made money on cattle bought last autumn but i do accept your point

    a good finisher i know buys different stock to you but always looks for ones a little hungry but with big potential and turns them inside out

    he makes a nice few quid out of it

    my own game is a different kettle of fish im full bore chasing efficient weight gain from start to finish



  • #1288
    White Clover
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    I think everyone buying stock is looking for the hungryish types with good potential to power on.

    Post edited by White Clover on


  • #1289
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    .Coats turning brown on fresian calves. Thought it might be deficiencies in minerals. Vet says its not a problem it will go of its own accord. Calves getting 2kg meal per day with grass and straw



  • #1290
    lmk123
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123550520#Comment_123550520

    I had the same with pollys and limos aswell as freisens, 2 buckets of mineral lick and they’re black as coal again



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  • #1291
    Sami23
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123551012#Comment_123551012

    What type and brand of mineral lick did you use to get those good results?



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