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What's a good coffee for a beginner?

  • 12-06-2025 11:44PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭


    I need to find a stimulant of some kind that's not destructive to ones health.

    Coffee is widely used and is vastly kinder to ones physiology that nicotine.

    Caffeine quantity and health wise, are there any recommended coffees?

    I made some Nescafe original in a latte with cinnamon and raw honey, it was actually quite good and had a reasonable intended effect.

    I understand you can get a caffeine "come down" however which can cause symptoms like headaches.

    Perhaps this can be avoided or reduced with higher quality coffees?

    Any recommendations in this capacity?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    I would only be making a latte BTW.

    Mostly milk, not conventional coffee.

    I'm not sure would that effect the choice of coffee itself?

    Perhaps any instant coffee is just fine?

    But from a health and feeling-good point of view, perhaps one may be preferable over the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Instant Coffee cooled with a hint of Irish Whisky.

    Hint: 5 oz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,262 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I have heard that caffeine is very good for your health on a few counts.

    I much prefer coffee made with ground beans over the disappointing taste of any instant coffee(although I was brought up on that)

    Tea is very nice too and really refreshing in a way that coffee is not(also much,much cheaper)

    Have never heard about "come downs" from coffee -although as a student I did take caffeine tablets to prepare for exams and would not recommend that as a pleasurable experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,634 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Instant coffees are mostly pretty disgusting, but that's a matter of taste, so if you find an instant coffee that you like the fact that others dislike it is neither here nor there.

    Some instant coffees have quite high amounts of added sugar, so if that's a concern for you, check the label. Some have artificial creamers added.

    For some people, instant coffee is a migraine trigger. You'll know very quickly if this is an issue for you.

    The main advantage of instant coffee is the convenience — no special equipment is needed, and you can make a coffee for yourself very quickly. if you're making a latte you'll have to heat the milk, so some of the convenience factor is lost. Still more convenient than a traditional latte, though.

    Coffee's an acquired taste, and you may find that your taste refines over time, so the coffee you like initially comes, after a while, to seem a bit disappointing. A lot of people who start out on instant coffee move on in time to real coffee and, after a while, some of those will no longer drink instant — they would rather go without, or take tea instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    The phrasing of the question tickled me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    As coffees go, Lattes or Mochas are probably the easiest ones to get used to the coffee taste (basically by masking it)

    You can add a dash of syrup to give it a sweeter taste if you want. There's sugar free versions of many syrups available but I haven't seen these served in cafes

    I would recommend finding a medium roast coffee to start. It's generally a much milder flavour than darker roasts

    As for health effects, it varies from person to person. I wouldn't be going drinking coffee to try and be healthy, there doesn't seem to be any conclusive evidence of any benefits and there seems to be as many drawbacks

    Like all stimulants you'll build up a tolerance to caffeine and you'll find you need more to get the same caffeine buzz

    Personally I limit myself to 2 coffees per day, maybe 3. I find that I have cravings for a coffee, but no adverse effects like headaches if I don't drink coffee that day

    I don't really get the buzz or post coffee crash, probably because I'm used to a certain level of caffeine at this point

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    If I want to go the "proper coffee" route, what do I need?

    Is it expensive?

    Presumably beans in a bag from Tesco, and some kind of a brewer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭nachouser


    You should grow your own coffee, it's the only way to be sure.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,032 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    An aeropress is a cheap enough way to start; I prefer the taste to a mokka pot. Takes up very little space too. They're about 40 quid IIRC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    If you want to make espresso based coffee yourself then a decent machine and grinder is a pretty high cost of entry

    A mokka pot is cheaper and probably a manual grinder. Personally I'm too stupid to use the mokka pot properly, and you can't do proper textured milk for lattes

    Honestly if you don't even know you like coffee then I'd just to a tour of the local coffee shops and see what you like

    No point in investing big money now just to find out in 3 weeks that you hate coffee

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    A good coffee in the morning- no milk no sugar- and I am ready for the day like a good yank-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Regarding where to get coffee, I've found discountcoffee.ie to be generally good and they've a good selection at decent prices

    1kg of beans costs less than half the prices of many retailers and personally I find the coffee to be just as good

    They've a selection of pods and instant coffees as well so you don't need to buy an espresso machine

    Incidentally a pod machine is probably the cheapest way to make consistent espresso without a huge upfront cost

    I sort of forgot they exist in my earlier post 😅

    Personally I hate them due to creating a lot of waste from used pods. I know they can be recycled, but I question how many actually make it to being recycled and in general recycling is the worst form of waste reduction

    However, I can't really argue with the price of the machines

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,032 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    If you're buying coffee pay attention to how dark the roast is, be it wholebean or ground. My experience is that Italian coffees tend to be over roasted and thus more burnt tasting. The beans don't need to be nearly black.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Thanks all.

    My main concern at this point being, taste aside (which I don't really care about as I'm overpowering everything with copious amounts of milk, cinnamon and honey), the health or effect drawbacks to using instant coffee over buying beans, grinding them and preparing them at home using a Mokka pot or brewer?

    I'm going to be totally honest, I'm partly using coffee to replace a months long phase of prescribed solpadol use (which has caffeine in it) after a surgery.

    My doc (correctly) said coffee can ease the transition off of it.

    So I honestly could care less about taste………… but this talk of instant coffee being a migraine trigger for some, where ground/brewed coffee isn't?

    I also don't like the idea of added preservatives or processed ingredients.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,274 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Then forget grinders and specialist coffee suppliers. Get a cheap as chips drip coffee machine or French press and some ground coffee in Tesco or Dunnes. Make it as strong or weak as you like and add, or don't add, sugar and milk as preferred.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Drip coffee machine sounds good.

    French press, does that require ground coffee?

    As in, both of the above are unsuitable for whole coffee beans?

    If I had a Mokka pot, does that accommodate whole beans or is that a ground coffee approach as well?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,032 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    You can't make coffee with coffee beans, you have to use ground coffee. People buy beans to be able to grind them just before using them, which means the coffee grounds are fresher. If you buy wholebean coffee you'd need get a grinder of some description too.

    You'd do absolutely fine just buying ground coffee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Preparing ground coffee, best/cheapest method?

    I don't want to drop a huge amount on a top shelf coffee machine.

    Any thoughts on what I can get away with? A mokka pot, a french press as above, are drip coffee machines expensive?

    On a side note, how many cups of coffee do you all drink per day?

    I've been doing either two or three with one teaspoon of instant coffee (I think caffeine is higher in instant, right?)

    If I brew a pot of coffee in a mokka pot or press, can I drink it throughout the day? Cause I can't imagine I'm going to consume an entire pot in one sitting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    Without being funny OP, do you not have access to Google?
    Every few weeks another thread about food or cooking and and it’s all extremely basic information.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Healthiest and simplest option is to find a decent coffee shop that's a 15-20 mins walk away and buy coffee from there

    The walk will help give you some exercise and while coffee from a shop is pretty much the most expensive option, you can get quality without spending a lot of money up front

    2-3 coffees per day is what I drink, and if you force yourself to walk to the shop it's a pretty good way to regulate your consumption 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Caffeine can sabotage the quality of your sleep. There is that negative aspect to it. Quality sleep is so important. It can be subtle, so yeah, your getting sleep, but just not the same deep restorative quality sleep after caffeine. It affects different people to different degrees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,274 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Keep in mind that your Solpadol had 30mg of caffeine per tablet, while there's about 85mg of caffeine in a standard cup of coffee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    One teaspoon?

    I had read one teaspoon comes in at about 30 to 35 mg caffeine?

    Nescafe original instant is the current coffee I'm using.

    Three cups today at 5 hour intervals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Appletart Upsetter


    Nescafé Azera Americano. This is a really nice instant coffee.

    I've had various different coffee making devices and always get bored and go back to instant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If you dont want to buy any machines / presses then keep an eye out for coffee bags eg Taylors of Harrogate.

    They are stocked in some independent supermarkets such as Nolans D3.

    As instants go Azera is a good shout but I found the coffee bags richer and smoother.

    https://millbrookmarket.ie/products/taylors-coffee-bags-rich-italian?srsltid=AfmBOoq_YX37hnW62MGbsddB5OO6LSE02QEoxKGMo8GiqNA8VwUx2QqN

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,355 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If you just want caffeine then you can get that in most energy drinks or to save money, you can get a 'pre workout' and mix it up at home. (Often have 300mg of caffeine per drink)

    Then go to the gym and put all that stimulation to some good use :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,355 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If you want real coffee (not instant) with minimum fuss, get a filter coffee maker like this

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    and you can get ground coffee in Lidl for under 3 euros that should last you week

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    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭GalaxyRyder


    Sideways question here given the context but, how do coffee drinkers here find it compares with tea?

    As in, teabags, made the good old fashioned way (we're talking Lyons/Barry's).

    A little googling tells me a teabag can produce about 50 mg caffeine per cup.

    For my purposes that would I suppose, be acceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It is quantity thing also. Do you drink a mug or cup, or get through a pot. Do you take yoir tea strong.

    Expectation can play a part via placebo effect. If you expect coffee to perk you up it increases the impact of the caffeine. If you dont have that expectation with tea it has less impact.

    I read online that Assam tea has highest caffeine content of black teas so keep an eye out that on label descriptions.

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