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Israel Launches strike against Irans Nuclear Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The idea of a "pre-emptive strike" has no basis in international law. It would be like saying 'I've heard a rumour that a guy down the road was planning to give me a few digs next week, so I went around and gave him a good hiding'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Israel is worse than Russia.

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,835 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    The only way to destroy Irans nuclear program is with speicialised American bombs that can drill deep into the ground. I've no idea if Israel has them or not.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Not a single Israeli civilian has been killed in the last 18 months, absolutely minimal damage to the country but apparently they 'face an existential threat to their existence' and 'fighting for their very survival'.

    If all of that is true, where on earth does that leave Ukraine?(!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    There's a lot of anti-Israel bias in here because of their actions in Gaza.

    This statement is an oxymoron. It isn't a bias when opinions have been formed as a consequence of Israel's actions. As you yourself say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,970 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    They only exist as they are at the moment because they have America's backing. If they didn't I'd be more than sure they'd have been wiped out by now by their neighbours.

    It's an interesting one though, as they don't really face exitential threat because of that US backing but at the same time might feel like they do because everyone around them keeps saying they're going to wipe them out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Seattle


    Just out of interest, did you ever criticise the international law breaking of Iran, or is it just of interest to you when Israel do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Iran is building nuclear weapons and even has a public Countdown to the destruction of Israel clock in Tehran so this is preferable to letting Iran getting nukes as they are radical enough to use them on civilians to complete their genocide. We have tried every other means so this is all that was left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Rezident


    Why not live in peace with Israel instead of constantly attacking them? Only 7m Jews left in the ME, 450m Arabs, why can't they let the few remaining Jews live? They're quite good at war after all the wars against them since the day after Israel was formed.

    Choose life instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭Seattle


    You're getting confused.

    There's bias against Israel's actions with respect to Iran, because of their actions in Gaza. Ie, if October 7th didn't happen and Israel didn't invade Gaza, there would be a lot less criticism in here of Israel's decision to strike a state which has openly admitted it wants to obliterate Israel (and is developing nuclear weapons.)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, quite a few things they have done in the past would be completely illegal under international law and I would condemn them.

    But Israel are clearly the major sponsors of terrorism in the region and the biggest threat to security. They have bombed many of their neighbours in the last 12 months (Gaza, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and now Iran) and all the while claiming everything they do is 'pre-emptive'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭Rezident


    No Israel was always happy to live and let Iran live.

    Iran, Hamas, Hizbollah and the Anti-Semite army are hellbent, literally, on destroying Israel and killing all the Jews. Again.

    Why not choose life instead?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The 'existential threat' excuse is mostly nonsense. All of western Europe faced an existential threat from the Soviet Union throughout the 50 years of the Cold War - that would not have given European countries the right to throw international law out the window and behave like a bunch of genocidal maniacs, whilst claiming 'we're only defending ourselves'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Israel has attacked Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine and Iran in the last couple of years.

    Their ministers have called for the obliteration of other countries.

    Why should they be permitted to use real and verbal violence but everyone else must not? If there is one thing they are not, it is being happy to Live and let Live.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    This claim is contradicted by the assessment of US intelligence. If Bibi were to be believed Iran has been months away from building a bomb for the last 25 years. You are perfectly entitled to believe a serial liar and corrupt individual who is wanted for war crimes just don't expect others who aren't blinkered to do the same

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭combat14


    latest is iranian airbase at tabriz is attacked most likely destroyed

    "Israeli aircraft struck the Iranian Air Force’s Tabriz Airbase, with a massive plume of smoke seen rising over the area.

    The base is home to a mix of Iranian MiG-29s and F-5s from the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd tactical fighter squadrons."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,970 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Apples and oranges really. Europe couldn't do anything about the existential threat from the Soviet Union as it would have sparked a nuclear war. Not so much the case with Israel and Iran (in fact Israel probably see themselves as preventing one by disabling Iran's nuclear program)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,099 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Isreal has been the biggest blocker to a normalising of relations for a long time now.

    No wonder people want to wipe you out when you won't stop stealing their land.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,970 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Wait….. So Iran (IRAN) are the good guys ? We are at the point of no return in the West. The end game is the Apocalypse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭Homelander


    In order to be a paper tiger, the world has to believe first that you're a tiger.

    But no-one has ever believed that Iran has, or is purported to have, a world-class or powerful military.

    It's why I find it so strange on here that over the past year there's been all kinds of bizarre claims from some people about Iran's military capabilities that not even the regime would claim themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,108 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The idea that Iran would build a nuclear weapon and then one week later drop it on Israel (a country with dozens of nuclear warheads) is a fantasy being peddled by Zionist lunatics to justify all sorts of outrages by their regime. None of this has any relation to the real world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,099 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Is Palestine not allowed have allies?

    Like everything else only Isreal is allowed have allies I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    The psycho little brother hiding behind the even more psycho big brother strikes again...the 2 of them fast becoming pariahs among civilised nations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    You are correct about the inferior state of Iran's military, however some Iranian regime spokemen do make extravagant claims that would have you believe otherwise. Salami was at it just yesterday. Today he is dead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭randd1


    I see the Zionists are murdering people and starting wars again.

    To be honest with you, if every Israeli was driven out of the Middle East, it wouldn't have one tenth of the problems.

    They're a racist, fascist, apartheid state built around a belief in their religious ethnic superiority. No wonder the yanks love them.

    Honestly, I have no great love for the Iranians either, but I'd love to see Iran hit them with one massive rocket right at the heart of the Israeli government, blow it to pieces. Just one rocket, and the Iranians come out and say "that was one. You decide if there'll be more", and see where Israel go.

    They badly need their cough softened before the attempt to ethnic cleanse all around them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,105 ✭✭✭plodder


    I sometimes think we give a bit too much credence to international law in this country, and the reason being that unarmed neutrality has been a successful policy for us, and has allowed this idea to permeate that all disputes can be resolved peacefully. It would be great if that were true, but I don't think it is. The world is actually quite a dangerous place.

    The reason why "pre-emptive strikes" are not tolerated in domestic law is not because people are blind to the difference between doing that in a domestic context vs internationally. It's because we have a police force, a courts system and prisons, that are used to enforce the law. There's nothing (seriously) equivalent to that in the international context. And I don't want to get into an argument about how the security council permanent members have hobbled such a system. No country in the world, wants to send its own sons and daughters off to fight other countries wars, except when their own interests are at stake.

    Neither Israel nor Iran care a fig about international law, because (a) the international (UN) police aren't going to come running to protect either of them and (b) consequently they both know they can do whatever they can get away with. I suppose you could at least say Israel fulfilled the procedural nicety of never signing up to the Nuclear Non proliferation treaty, unlike Iran. But, that's all it is in this instance - a procedural box ticking exercise. It's not going to make much difference whether Iran secedes from the treaty or not.

    As I heard someone say recently, the only language understood in the middle east, is the language of strength and force and Israel is doing all the talking on that front at the moment.

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    The world has changed in last few years and it ain’t going back

    The Vatniks who are screeching in this thread in fake outrage while at same time supporting as equally vile regimes waging their own wars of aggression in parallel thread want a “multi polar” world where international laws and rules don’t apply

    The problem for them is that this stupidity cuts both ways

    In a world without laws you have Gaza you have Ukraines you have Sudan you have Congos and so on

    Irans axis of stupidity has created their own worst enemy in Israel whom also don’t give a **** anymore about international laws and repercussions

    Ukrainians to their credit have up to now stuck strictly to the letter of international law in their response to vile Russian aggression/invasion and nightly waves of Iranian made drones and missiles, Putin is betting they will keep fighting with their hands tied



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