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Will AI take your job?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,827 ✭✭✭plodder


    Depressing thought at one level, but then CV screening done by human recruiters was never much more than looking for keywords. It's not like they are typically experts in the subject matter, in my experience. One thing I've noticed over the years is that CVs have been getting shorter and shorter, reducing to not much more than lists of keywords, designed probably to be short enough that someone will actually look at them, and get through the screening stage. AI might actually improve this process and encourage people to put more information in their CVs ….

    Also, it always used to piss me off, back in the day, when I was changing jobs and using recruiters from that side, that they never bothered to let you know when you didn't get a job or an interview even. Automation could at least fix that problem.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    He's a bluffer. But has deep pockets which means he can make lots of mistakes and get past them by throwing money at it. His main talent seems to at making money, and circumventing the usual rules. Again by throwing money at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Hr and recruitment has been dysfunctional for years. Seems to attract people who are really bad at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    The sycophantic AI problem

    Yep seen it try to generate solutions which are absolute nonsense

    But top marks for confidence, pity it leads to much time wasting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    The navvies probably got jobs getting coal and steel to make the bulldozer. A few generations later and they might be in admin jobs, having a longer in life span.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭backwards_man


    It's not that good - yet. It understands language. It knows what you are asking. It's trying to answer you. It doesn't understand the difference between a correct or an incorrect answer - yet. The problem is being worked on, it's called AGI and predictions are it will be achieved sometime.within the next 5-8 yrs. However it is very good at straightforward requests in the realms of maths, physics, coding, accounting etc... People who know how to write the correct prompts to guide the AI will be the ones who keep their jobs ie spend 4 hrs tweaking the prompt and get a few weeks worth of output in seconds. Spend another few days sanity checking it and you have saved weeks of work. That is where this is going in the next 10 yrs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    An artist or cinematographer using AI will not be replaced by Joe soap producing art or movies using AI. Which is why so much of AI artistic output is abysmal. It will be another tool in the creative toolbox.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Imagine your boss gets up at a meeting and says "eightieschewbaccy is notoriously wrong in his assumptions and predictions but is still the guy way out in front as regards making money for this company"….

    Would you settle for being wrong in 9 out of 10 predictions and still be the richest man in the world? Twisting things to suit an agenda or argument comes off as petty.

    I am no fan of the man himself but when he talks technology he has more credibility than anyone in the world.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Again as with another reply….a bluffer???? Huh?? Really?

    Invented/Involved in Paypal, Space X, Neuralink, Tesla, Starlink, Solarcity, Tesla energy….

    Again I am no fan of his shennanigans in his personal life but to call the richest man in the world with a CV like his is just plain nonsense.

    A bluffer is Elizabeth Holmes.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Again….sorry but that is more nonsense.

    You are obviously not keeping up with AI advancements or the scope they have to make that eventuality a reality.

    How many hours have you spent producing images so far on MidJourney, Leanardo etc ?

    How many hours looking at Runway, InVideo, Sora, Kling ?

    I have done video and photography for well over 25+ years and can tell you that a lot of people like me have a snobbery in saying "there is a skill…."

    Sure there is but a lot has to do with the equipment and a Canon 70/200 F/2.8L lens will take better photos than your phone accross a room or for Sports. There are various techniques anyone can learn but there is no myth to either.

    AI is taking over….time for a lot of people to just get over it or get left behind.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You do realise that a computer (which sits in nearly every home in the world and made Bill Gates the richest guy until Musk came along)….use a binary system, which means they represent information using only two digits: 0 and 1

    Lets say you work for a company and your boss gives you 10 PDFs with company policy to go home and read for the weekend. With AI you can load that up to a custom agent and have it present reports from all that info.

    And you say it is 'not that good' ?

    Please….people….do some research at least….I spend 10-15 hours a week keeping up with all that is happening in AI.

    All of you sound like cavemen coming up with excuses for how not to trust the wheel. '….it hits bumps'. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    AI seems to create answers it thinks you want, but actually isn't what you asked. 

    If you mean hallucinations and them responding regardless, this is a fundamental facet of transformers, but the architectures and pipelines are getting better for this. More expressive models with chain-of-thought are far better for producing valid reasoning in my experience. RAGs help a lot also. They may still hallucinate but for my own work, this is not an issue. A model might get something wrong but I generally know and can refine the inputs. When I consider the scale of correct output that they offer, to the mistakes, the hallucinations are irrelevant to me.

    I'm looking at how I can data cleanse our data and structure that data so its useful in a model

    For training a model, finetuning, or referencing? I'm sure you know what you're doing but e.g. if you're allowed to finetune, consider taking a look at datasets that are known to be performant, and the structure of them. E.g., Open-Orca/OpenOrca · Datasets at Hugging Face. I.e., system prompt | question | response

    Personally I'd use AI in a pipeline to get data ready for AI via agent workflow engines, with oversight obviously. If LLMs have one great strength it's in inferring and expressing linguistic structure, and text summarisation and similar tasks. This has been the case since BERT and even before. Small local models may handle simple sanitisation, depending on the task.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Skepticism is good….but just like the Celtic Tiger (everyone became a property developer buying second homes to rent out)….all these guys selling get quick rich schemes with AI give it a bad name.

    Meanwhile the serious plays are the ones who will make the money.

    Ireland will be the last country per usual to adopt AI in a serious way because we are still pretty slow and backward to change.

    AI was implimented in New Zealand to help to identify possible abnormalities on CT images and advances in CT image reconstruction software have led to a dramatic reduction in the radiation dose delivered from CT scans. 

    It also helps to scan more patients and decreases the waiting time.

    AI is only in its infancy….and still people don't see where all this is going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭backwards_man


    Not what I said at all. Bizarre response. Not sure why you directed that at me.

    My response was for those who refuse to use AI because it doesn't do the exact thing they tried it for once. I literally said it is saving hours of time and will only get better over time..It isn't that great in some areas - yet. That's a fact. However it is very good at some tasks now. My team is actively using it. I have been rolling out AI to my group for the past 18 months. And contiuing to identigy use cases for it. It is not going to "take all jobs" as some.people.have claimed. it is going to change how people do their jobs. Some jobs will be obsolete in 10 yrs akin to how automationn replaced lab technicians in the 1970s who used to analyse blood under a microscope. Roles will.change and those who figure out how to use AI will still have their choice of roles.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wondered that too and have heard/read/seen some answers to this….in the lines of:

    • Because robots will do 60-80% of the manual work goods and services will be cheaper
    • People will be paid a living wage
    • A lot more people in healthcare as the world is aging rapidly

    I am an 80s kid with the usual romantic stories swinging from trees and playing football from dawn till dusk etc etc

    I don't like this new world with kids doom scrolling on phones and everyone at a table with heads stuck in them etc.

    But as with AI, that is how the world is….so we may just get with the programme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Veo 3 is only out a few weeks and Joe Soaps are outputting things based on a few prompts that….minor issues aside with respect to how good the rest is….would take big budgets, or an impossible budget, and a lot of time to produce traditionally. Look at the state of the art from 6 months ago and compare to now.

    Suno was also used to generate the music for that one ^



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Kudos to you and your team….a lot of companies will be dragged kicking and screaming to use it.

    If you worked in the civil service….would this not be top of your agenda to bring in to keep track of all the filing cabinets of material? But no….Irelands hse got hacked because a lot of their computers still used Windows 7 ffs.

    It will be a lot sooner than 10 years….AI is the new Space Race….it will be less than 5-6 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,932 ✭✭✭take everything


    I got a feeling this thread will look fairly quaint in five years time.

    I suspect this is world-changing technology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    Progress at all costs and don't stop moving forward, not one step back.

    Absolutely great attitude to a thing that will render loads obsolete and jobless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    Government strategy on AI was published a few days ago



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    I can understand how people outside various industries they know nothing about get over excited by hype peddlers as can be seen higher up the page

    Unfortunately for AI or any tech here in Europe there are so many regulations that if your AI generated nonsense breaks any of them your company endsup on hook for billions and potentially go out of business

    Companies are more worried about legal repercussions than missing out any potential productivity gains

    It’s a tool that will over time (much longer than people expect) increase productivity as various legal and social obstacles are overcome, we had tools like internet for decades now and there are still companies and countries relying on things like fax machines and SMS messages and paper for critical workflows

    It’s all well and good fantasising about getting to Mars on robotic rockets only to endup mining ore (think Expanse dystopia) for some oligarchs, tho I suspect the drugs will get em first



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If they are as fast to move on AI strategy as they are on County Plans, Building Childrens hospitals etc….expect it in 5 years.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The legality issue is a great point.

    Let's see how the Hollywood companies get on with the lawsuits against them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    While the output is just ok quality (more like in game cut scenes). the direction and cinematography is very poor. I'm not impressed. This why I'd suggest Joe soap isn't going to the anytime soon. I'd like see what a director could do with it. No doubting the tech is making progress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I am safe until an AI is built that is not an LLM based on stolen generic data, but a general AI that can learn on the job more effectively than a CS graduate can. Specifically, if there is an AI that would shadow what I am doing for a few years and actually understand the reasons of my actions, then sure, that type of AI can do what I do faster and more effectively, until it gets poisoned by the incorrect feedback, that is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,655 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Except we've got a long list of promises that he's made in relation to his own cars and he didn't get them right. So no, he's not the foremost expert on robotics or AI just because he's wealthy.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    While the output is just ok quality (more like in game cut scenes).

    I don't agree, most scenes above are photorealistic or near photorealistic, and in terms of the CGI aspects, are comparable to movies with large budgets. Bearing in mind that CGI can be questionable in movies with budgets €100M+, and even in such movies not all scenes are photorealistic. Also bearing in mind that the scenes above required no actors, equipment, lighting, locations, artists, etc., and were generated by people in their bedroom near instantaneously. And that the model used for those videos came out 3 weeks ago.

    If we're at the point of criticising artistic choices rather than quality then that should show everyone how far things have developed in a matter of months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭techman1


    Is that not a subjective argument, you could also argue that most "modern art" is crap and very few artists now could reproduce the art of the great masters of the 18th and 19th centuries?

    The common defensive argument is that ,oh well the great master's work has already been done , don't need to keep doing that, but nobody bothers to attempt it now either. If AI can produce new "great masters" art well then that would be big. However I think AI would have much more success reproducing the works of Jeff Goons (dead animals in formaldehyde) rather than Rembrandt .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Maybe AI generated art is "endless art"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    A certain amount is subjective. However a lot of AI output is lacking technical aspects, like framing for example.



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