Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

He's not wrong.

Ok then, if he's 'not wrong' can you help in showing us where the "throw gay people from skyscrapers" comes from. I've seen it from other locations but not Gaza yet it's bandied about as fact despite being disproven.

Funny how Israel has moved chunks of the population to safe zones while they targeted Hamas.

And then targeted the civilians in these "safe zones".

Gaza 'humanitarian zone' struck almost 100 times since May

Is that what's "funny" to you?

Not exactly a picture of ethnic cleansing is it.

You clearly don't understand the term.

Meanwhile the stated aim of Hamas is to wipe out Israel.

No one has argued otherwise. You are working off the repeated false equivalence that criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza (and beyond) equates to support for Hamas.

It is a stupid start point and has never gained any strength no matter how many times it's idiotically trotted out.

I'm not saying Israel have been perfect in all this but I don't buy into the hysteria that Israel is bad and the " ministry of health " is good.

"I don't buy" is simply "I don't wish to look"

It's not so long ago we had hysteria in the press with Israel firing a rocket at a hospital. By the end of the day it's disproved and it's actually Hamas firing a rocket and it landing in the hospital car park. All to be neatly brushed under the carpet

If it was disproved then it wasn't "brushed under the carpet". It was looked in to for verification and found to be untrue. Israel continues to engage in acts that you are happy to see "brushed under the carpet" under the guise of "I don't buy…".

In the last few days AlJazera put out video of an Israeli attack on a feeding station in the morning, repeated by mainline media and by the end of the day it's actually footage from another city at a different time of the day than alleged. Again brushed under the carpet.

Again, good; it was put under scrutiny, found to be unverifiable and found to be another situation…therefore…not brushed under the carpet.

A doctor reporting the carnage coming from a feeding station caused by Israel. She wasn't even there. She's just repeating the line fed to her by the ministry of health.

You're making that assumption.

The hysteria is irrational. I don't see the same response to all the women and children killed by Russia in Ukraine or the babies killed in Yemen from Israeli and American attacks.

There are multiple news sources and threads/forums etc. all commenting on it.

It you wanted to find them, you could have. You just "don't buy" things you don't want to know. Life's easier that way but don't expect us all to fall for it.

Everyone is believing the Hamas ministry of health reports without questioning it. Makes me wonder do Irish , British , whatever other people support Hamas.

And there it is again (and again and again..); criticism of Israeli actions unquestionably means support for Hamas.

Israel has moved chunks of the population to safe zones

You must be referring to the concentration camps.

I'd imagine the killing of 55,000 known Palestinians versus 1200 Israelis is the more "hysterical" reaction.

But sure, you're entitled to support and justify the actual extermination of an innocent population, 70% of whom are women and children. So just keep on trotting out the tiresome whataboutery posts.

And you're entitled to support Hamas

Regarding Israel.

Israel don't launch rockets from schools or even from anywhere inside gaza. they have massive missile launchers. they have an airforce, army and navy. And they use them regularly.

They don't throw gay people from skyscrapers. Can you show me when Hamas threw people from skyscrapers? BTW, there's israeli cabinet ministers who are anti gay. And the pride parade had to be cancelled for years because of threats from Jewish groups.

Israel doesn't redirect aid. It just stops it for 3 months. And then they created a militia from drug dealers, armed them, and left them in charge of security for the 4 new aid stations. There used to be over 200 aid distribution points. Now there's 4 clustered around Rafah with no aid at all in the north. BTW, the reports of Hamas stealing aid are greatly exaggerated.

Yes, Israel launches attacks on neighboring countries. They don't have a single neighbor they haven't attacked in their history. And in the last few weeks they've attacked other countries. It happens on a regular basis.

Hamas attacked israel and committed horrific crimes. In response Israel have all but destroyed the gaza strip. They limited air to a trickle and then stopped it all together. They have killed tens of thousands of innocent women and children. Their rules of engagement mean that when 3 israeli hostages, stripped to the waist, waving white material and screaming in hebrew were killed, there was no fault found with the troops who did it. They have targeted air workers, journalists and medical staff.

And that's just gaza. That doesn't include all the land they're stealing in the westbank or the apartheid they implemented there.

Hamas are bad. The israeli government/IDF are bad.

All this talk about the people of Gaza disowning Hamas. Why aren't the people of Israel in turn being asked to disown the terrorist entity known as the IDF? It's a legiitimate question seeing as it has been linked with multiple war crimes and probable genocide.

Hey how are the ministry of health making up that the whole of Gaza has been destroyed? How are they making up that Israel are blockading food to all civilians? How are they making up that Israeli politicians in government, out of their own mouths, are telling us what they are doing? How are they making up the dozens of people shot each day at "aid points"? How are they making up the paramedics being killed and Israel lying about it? I could be here all day...

Of course I read and often quote figures from the ministry of health for the numbers of those killed in Gaza.

The numbers are also quoted by all news agencies, the UN and as has been stated here, but I'll repeat in case you misread it, even Israel.

Do you take the words of the IDF as gospel? Obviously, until they have been shown as consummate liars and caught red handed that is.

Labour, under Starmer, dragged themselves into the gutter supporting genocide

Ask most Israelis as well and they will tell you the attack on the 7th of October was like their version of 9/11.

Well that's ok then is it?

If Oct 7th was such a monumentous event in Israeli's eyes; why then is current Israeli action in The West Bank given a pass seeing as the numbers of victims there are roughly on par with Israeli victims of Oct 7th?

how are they supporting genocide? They are one of the few countries that has openly told Israel that enough is enough and have now issued sanctions against two Israeli ministers for the public comments.

It's not a scoffing remark, it was a question.

As well as ensuring Palestinians are in the concentration camps and continuing the starvation tactics, the bombing campaign also continues. And of course, the reports seem to expose yet more IDF lies and their propensity to carry out atrocities and war crimes.

Medical charity Médecins du Monde accused Israel of violating international law with drone strikes on a building housing one of its offices in Gaza that killed eight people, none of them staff.

"At least eight people were killed in the bombardment. All were on the last floor of the building," it said, without providing more details on those killed.

"Médecins du Monde had informed the Israeli military of the presence of its office, which had officially been declared 'deconflicted', or shielded from Israeli military attacks under humanitarian coordination agreements," it said.

"However, as during previous Israeli attacks, the team received no forward warning that would have allowed it to evacuate the building or take measures to protect anyone inside," it added.

There were recent discussions here on the sale of Israeli War Bonds by the Irish Central Bank. Here's a good RTE report that explains the situation. Perhaps politicians will force this bizarre situation to end given the majority of opposition to the Israeli Genocide. Certainly, the central bank appears to have a point.

"The governor of the Central Bank has told politicians that it cannot refuse to facilitate the sale of Israel war bonds as doing so would break EU capital markets rules."

No violence - just video showing the dehumanisation of starving civilians.

Notably - no sign of the elderly, women or children, the sick, the maimed and those simply unable to reach these centres and receive food. I only hope the men in the video are able to bring it back to their starving families.

Grotesque and utterly shameful that this is happening in 2025.

how do they facilitate Israeli operations?

Are we talking about the leader of the UK? The one that issued this statement?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-from-the-leaders-of-the-united-kingdom-france-and-canada-on-the-situation-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank

Joint statement from the leaders of the United Kingdom, France and Canada on the situation in Gaza and the West Bank - GOV.UK

Doesn’t sound much like he is defending the right to cut off food to me