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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • #14042
    poop emoji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532733#Comment_123532733

    You might want to look at map where Kaliningrad is

    Where Poland is

    And where Kursk is



  • #14043
    Mike3549
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532823#Comment_123532823

    Jesus Christ, it was YOU, who claimed that Russia was launching missiles from Kaliningrad.

    "Worth pointing out that Russian drones and missiles regularly cross NATO airspace into Ukraine including from Kaliningrad".



  • #14044
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,205 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Average age of Ukrainian soldier is 43.



  • #14045
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532295#Comment_123532295

    This sends a clear message to any small country concerned about it's national security - develop your own nuclear deterrence. It doesn't have to be elegant, quick and dirty will do for a start.



  • #14046
    Deub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Deub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532775#Comment_123532775

    Where is your source it was intentional by Zelensky?



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  • #14047
    mulbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭mulbot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532926#Comment_123532926

    The very fact that he called straight away for a Nato response without any investigation was enough. The Americans and Polish were quick to stop the fool.



  • #14048
    macraignil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭macraignil


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532934#Comment_123532934

    There is nothing foolish about trying to get more assistance for your country when it is attacked by a larger military force and the citizens of your country are being murdered on a daily basis in an attempted land grab by a genocidal dictator. Calling Zelenskyy derogatory names for sensible leadership clearly marks you as a pro kremlin mouthpiece.

    Mod Edit: Warned for attacking the poster

    Post edited by Necro on


  • #14049
    mulbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭mulbot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532942#Comment_123532942

    Ah the Nato bots are up early. Zelensky calling for a Nato response for that missile that hit Poland, without any investigation was foolish, and dangerous.

    Mod Edit: Warned for attacking the poster

    Post edited by Necro on


  • #14050
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532775#Comment_123532775

    As usual, you have missed the point of how fearful russia was when they thought they might have provoked NATO, and how fearful you seem to be on behalf of russia.

    And everyone knows that russian equipment frequently misfires.



  • #14051
    mulbot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,773 ✭✭✭mulbot


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533084#Comment_123533084

    Must be all those dishwasher parts-imagine what would be happening otherwise



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  • #14052
    zv2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭zv2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532566#Comment_123532566

    The winning strategy is for the west to fully arm Ukraine and wait for the collapse of Russia. This process is already underway. They just need to accelerate it.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • #14053
    zv2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭zv2


    More good stuff with a bad soundtrack

    https://twitter.com/news_and32812/status/1932718916700184999

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • #14054
    Baba Yaga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533243#Comment_123533243

    as someone said they really do have shite taste in music but fantastic at making russian things go BOOM!!!

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • #14055
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533243#Comment_123533243

    I'm confused? Where are the apartment blocks, markets, playgrounds and maternity hospitals?? @mulbot any info here?



  • #14056
    poop emoji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533293#Comment_123533293

    Don’t blame em, tis been a terrible week for the Russian invaders

    And now this, 18th round of EU sanctions has some fairly nasty surprises for Russia

    https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-kaja-kallas-vladimir-putin-russia-eu-sanctions-targeting-energy-banks/

    aside; the EU must be very confident that ever tighter sanctions helps Ukraine and harms Russia

    Post edited by poop emoji on


  • #14057
    Necro
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 57,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: Can we stop with the personal jibes folks? If you have an issue with a poster, report it and move on. Commenting in the fashion of a number of deleted posts have is only going to result in warnings and bans. mulbot is serving another forum ban for their own posting also. Let's move on now. Thanks.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling, State Benefits



  • #14058
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,623 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532439#Comment_123532439

    China's "backing" is, so far, limited to continuing to trade with Russia on terms that heavily favour themselves. There is very little to suggest that China have any notion of joining Russia on the battlefield and, to my eyes at least, it'd seem far more likely to see Chinese armor rolling into Outer Manchuria than Donetsk. In fact, I believe the Chinese reclaimation of those lands to be an extremely likely outcome of this war.

    The citizens of Kyiv have no choice but to endure what Russia's war machine is throwing at them. The alternative, as demonstrated by Russian crimes in Bucha, is genocide. Russia have no interest in negotiatians so selling out their fellow Ukrainians in eastern parts of the country isn't even an option to them. Only a coward dies on thier knees and the Ukrainian people have been showing us for over three years now that they're the polar opposite.

    Whatever the timeline, Russia cannot continue to prosecute it's imperial war forever. They're losing men and materiel at a rate that outstrips their ability to replace them, their economy is in tatters and they're fighting an opponent who are clearly better strategists, more motivated and who are more technologically and operationally advanced. Yes, quantity has a quality of it's own but the Ukrainians have already demonstrated that it's not an insurmountable one.

    The ocean can erode rock but it takes centuries and Russia do not have centuries, or even decades to win this war.

    It's entirely arguable that Russia are only still in this war because of the election of Donald Trump. An American president acting in the best intersts of his own country (and the world at large) would be increasing military support to Ukraine rather than petulantly reducing it.

    Outside of another black swan event like this (e.g. a nuclear strike, Europe swinging to the far right and pullling all support for Ukraine or North Korea openly declaring war on Ukraine and fully committing their forces - something which would invite the Republic of Korea to ally with Ukraine and arguably the outbreak of WW3) it's hard to see any other logical outcome of this war than the collapse of the Russian Federation, famine and civil war. Whether Ukraine will have the military strength at this point to take advantage of this and reclaim all their territory is uncertain but it's already clear that Russia doesn't have the military strength to achieve their objective of a total conquering of Ukraine.

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  • #14059
    Baba Yaga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    has it not been two weeks at least since donnie vonshitzinpants gave his best buddy putin the "two weeks or else" phone call…? or has he forgotten about that as hes too busy sending the marines in to invade los angeles…?

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • #14060
    poop emoji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Happy fireworks day

    https://united24media.com/latest-news/drone-strike-hits-major-russian-ammo-plant-in-tambov-sparks-15-explosions-9029


  • #14061
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533665#Comment_123533665

    Russia doesn't have the military strength to achieve their objective of a total conquering of Ukraine.

    But do we know that's currently Putin's (realistic) objective? We can assume he started out with that aim but a few months into the 'special military operation' we got this

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/30/putin-announces-russian-annexation-of-four-ukrainian-regions

    IMO if Russia were to secure all or the vast majority of those oblasts within the next couple of years, and I would say that's a realistic prospect even at current rates of progress', I think there's a good chance Putin would cash in his chips at that point…



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  • #14062
    Jon Doe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jon Doe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533136#Comment_123533136

    FYI dishwasher parts are rated for a 10 to 20 year lifespan depending on the model… 🤣 What happens to its quality after you remove them from the dishwasher that's on you…



  • #14063
    Jon Doe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jon Doe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533221#Comment_123533221

    No, no… Only slowly can you boil the frog… ;)



  • #14064
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭Suckler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533735#Comment_123533735

    IMO if Russia were to secure all or the vast majority of those oblasts within the next couple of years, and I would say that's a realistic prospect even at current rates of progress', I think there's a good chance Putin would cash in his chips at that point…

    That's a reasonable approach but that's not a Russian/Putin-'esque' approach.

    They'd redraw the borders today but in true Russian style they'd take a few years off and just have another go I think.



  • #14065
    poop emoji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533735#Comment_123533735

    no it’s not a remotely realistic prospect


    It would take 12 years at current rates to capture the remainder those oblasts

    That’s assuming Russian military somehow manages to cross the Dnipro as majority of the claimed oblasts are on the other side of the very large river

    And assuming as ISW repeatedly point out that Russia somehow manages to capture large fortress cities, largest they managed up to now was Bakhmut (which cost 100k Russian deaths and destruction of Wagner), there are some massive cities much larger than Bakhmut in remaining parts of those oblasts strung in a line, that are not as easy to capture as hard to defend flat fields

    I recommend reading the ISW reports they are quite illuminating

    The Russians would love to paint a picture that victory (whatever their shifting definition of it is) is inevitable but the reality on ground is different

    They can’t event capture Pokrosvk (pop 60k pre war) despite trying for over a year

    How would they capture Dnipro which has population of over a million and split by a river?

    Have you forgotten what happened to Russians in Kherson?

    Post edited by poop emoji on


  • #14066
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,131 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    https://fxbsky.app/profile/urikikaski.bsky.social/post/3lrd6btsn7f2y

    Ukrainians rescue one of their wounded using a remotely controlled vehicle.

    Slava Ukraine.



  • #14067
    Jon Doe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Jon Doe


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533735#Comment_123533735

    Samoilov seems to think that Russia can't keep the current battle intensity for 2 years. S**t is degrading fast within Russia. That's why they're essentially re-enslaving the population - something that suits Putin just fine, given that he thinks the end of the Soviet Union was the tragedy of the 20th century…



  • #14068
    Sunny Disposition
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It's very hard to know how strong Putin is, really. If he falls it will probably happen fairly suddenly I think, probably some kind of palace coup. While there is little public dissent, even now, when Prigozhin headed for Moscow he seemed to have quite a bit of public support and there was no sign of the Russian public backing the President.



  • #14069
    Deub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Deub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532934#Comment_123532934

    It may be enough for you but it is not a proof. The fact that it iras something that could be verified is enough for me to think it was not his plan.
    and when you see what Ukraine jas been able to achieve lately without Russia knowing just show they are smarter than that.



  • #14070
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533937#Comment_123533937

    That event shows how quickly, out of nothing, Putin's house of cards can come tumbling down.

    Can you imagine anything even remotely similar happening in any other major nation - a private army marching on the capital and exchanging fire with the national army/ airforce?

    As others have suggested, the end will probably come very quickly when it does. If that ape Progozhin hadn't signed his own death cert by calling off the march, this war would have ended a long time ago.



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  • #14071
    Apiarist
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123533666#Comment_123533666

    Trump gives putin a couple of weeks to "stop the war or else" time after time. The reason is that after two weeks he can claim that he forgot, that this is old fake news, and let's give my friend vladimir another two weeks, etc. This has been the pattern for 6 months already, people need to grow up and understand that Trump is just helping putin by delaying any actions that could help Ukraine.



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