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The 2025 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Jayus, those amounts of dots indicate a quiet confidence!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,831 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    We only need a draw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,303 ✭✭✭✭event


    If ye can, park here - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Pg5XwUFgUVGDYrfB6

    Usually closed and no barrier etc. Its a 20 minute walk. Bear in mind the walk back, good bit is up hill. But you'll be flying then to get home. Alternatively park on Dominic Street if you can, thats where I parked Saturday. Going in to the Quays or the Buttercrane will be an absolute disaster getting out. Its a shopping centre car park so imagine a few hundred other cars getting out at the exact same time, both using the same junction.

    Dont go near Greenbank or River street. Both across the river and again, nightmare to get out of



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    King and Moffatt Park



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fun fact, part of Páirc Esler is in Co Armagh. It was highlighted when Armagh went to a warm weather training camp in Portugal in 2018, against the rules. Their punishment was to play a home League game in Newry in 2019.

    https://www.balls.ie/gaa/down-gaas-stadium-is-located-in-armagh-110970

    If it makes any difference to the players, Esler is nearer to Celtic Park in size than to Croke Park.

    Croke 145x88, Celtic 138x84, Esler 138x81 metres. Also Owenbeg 135x82.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Is there a table of pitch playing surface sizes on the net anywhere?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is a list at the end of this article, a good read. From before the new Kildare pitch.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0511/1297395-size-matters-gaa-pitch-dimensions-irk-beyond-measure/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2022/0511/1297395-size-matters-gaa-pitch-dimensions-irk-beyond-measure/


    Semple Stadium - 145 x 90m

    Pearse Stadium - 145 x 90m

    Cusack Park (Ennis) - 145 x 90m

    Dr Hyde Park - 145 x 90m

    O'Connor Park - 145 x 90m

    Ballybofey - 145 x 90m

    Croke Park - 145 x 88m

    Nowlan Park - 145 x 88m

    Dr Cullen Park - 145 x 87m

    Aughrim - 145 x 86m

    Brewster Park - 145 x 83m

    Páirc Ui Rinn - 144 x 88m

    Páirc Ui Chaoimh - 144 x 88m

    Fitzgerald Stadium - 144 x 82m

    Athletic Grounds - 143 x 88m

    Breffni Park - 143 x 86m

    Markiewicz Park - 142 x 90m

    Clones - 142 x 87m

    Páirc Sean Mac Diarmada - 142 x 87m

    Wexford Park - 142 x 87m

    O'Moore Park - 142 x 86m

    Healy Park - 142 x 86m

    Walsh Park - 142 x 80m

    Parnell Park - 141 x 82m

    Cusack Park (Mullingar) - 140 x 82m

    Glennon Brothers Pearse Park - 138 x 88m

    Celtic Park - 138 x 84m

    Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda - 138 x 83m

    Páirc Elser - 138 x 81m

    Gaelic Grounds - 137 x 82m

    MacHale Park - 137 x 82m

    Páirc Tailteann - 135 x 87m

    Newbridge - 135 x 80m

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Is that "new" Newbridge, it is a bit on the pokey side?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    The new St Conleth's Park is bigger.

    "The pitch redevelopment will include relaying of the playing surface, installation of an irrigation system and extension/widening of the pitch dimensions to 145m x 85m."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Good question that article is from 2022. I checked wiki it said 137 x 80m

    I happen to have a book called A place to play. Lists 101 GAA grounds. Published 2023.

    On Clonleth park page it states it was set for redevelopment 2022 closed for two years in 2023. Dimensions now given as 136 x 86 in book.

    image.jpg image.jpg

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Wow. I'm surprised it is as short as that. I think Meath will cause them a lot of problems. 8 point handicap is very interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    If Meath are aggressive from throw in could cause Kerry problems. Completely out muscled Dublin in Portlaoise.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    Is this the weekend where football at All Ireland level gets to breathe? What great articles are in store this weekend when the media have a weekend to reflect on the championship so far?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Westernview


    The breather is great. 2 full weeks for every team to prepare for the last round. I'm expecting some great games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    The Tailteann Cup preliminary quarter-finals are this weekend.

    Offaly v New York

    Sligo v Carlow

    Wexford v Antrim

    Westmeath v Laois

    Group runners up will always be favourites at home. Carlow, Antrim and Laois have gone well in this competition previously. Surprising Offaly and Westmeath didn't win their groups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    RTE seem to have taken the opportunity to push that’ “Hell for leather” series about the history of Gaelic Football etc. starts Monday 7th June

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,574 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I hope they have cool archive footage etc. and not the usual slow-mo of chaps playing and cheesy 'folklore' stuff that cropped up a bit on the hurling equivalent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,170 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    One of the 2 'big' teams be out of the Tailteann Cup this weekend with Kildare vs Offaly set to face off in the QFs

    Tailteann Cup quarter-final draw

    Fermanagh v Sligo

    Wicklow v Westmeath

    Kildare v Offaly

    Limerick v Wexford



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Kildare strong favourites with the bookies. As are Westmeath and Limerick. Not much between Fermanagh and Sligo.

    Kildare's win in the Joe McDonagh probably gives the schedulers something to think about. They will be playing Dublin next weekend who are also in football action in Newry Saturday evening. And Kildare v Offaly in the Tailteann also has to be arranged.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    the usual slow-mo of chaps playing and cheesy 'folklore' stuff

    Loads of feckin slow-mo already and I'm only about 5 minutes in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭strawdog


    Unwatchable. There must be a bunch of newly graduated film school students working on these docs these days or something because they're so over stylized and filtered you can't focus on the story. Shame as there's some great raw material for a fascinating doc there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    watching on plus 1 as I forgot about it

    Only middling so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭crusd


    Jaysus, the first 10 minutes of the Football documentary was unwatchable. Interns let loose with video editing software would be the kindest thing you could say. Was about to turn off and then it actually stared. The instincts were for the stupid montages to return for the rest of the show, however in a 1 hour documentary there was about 20 minutes of good content. Should have made it more about the likes of Dickie Fitzgerald and Sean Lavan, giving an insight into how the game became what it is and less about Shane Walsh slowly kicking the ball against the gable. Throwing 10 lads in nikes and tracksuits out into a tiny rocky field to give an insight into the early parish to parish game was pretty ridiculous too.

    This should more have focused on the people and less on the visuals. Juxtaposing the current game with the historic one to serve to highlight how the culture and game developed.

    They talked about the game getting codified in the 1880s and then 3 years later there being 1000 clubs around the country but nothing about how that happened. Instead of montages they could actually have gone to one of the first clubs that is still running, talked about the history, how it was founded, people behind it and the people still involved etc.

    It also talked about it having being a parish to parish same but became a game based on a 140 yard pitch with goals. Would be interesting to understand why 140? Soccer and Rugby teams at the same time would have had much smaller pitches so what was unique in the GAA that resulted in the larger pitch? How did the scoring mechanism come about - there was an early photo of a single soccer type goal with side uprights like AFL - but this was glossed over. On the development of the solo, it was like as if one day Lavan decided to solo the ball and everyone said ok, thats how we play now but I am sure there must have been controversy at the time but never talked about. - as an aside - Mayo were so reluctant to kick the ball long even 100 years ago they invented the solo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    They flitted about from one thing to the other, never actually finishing what they started. It was an awful waste of good material.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I didn't see it. But any TV programme is going to make use of video sources, not many available from the early days. The reason for the big pitches would probably be that up to 21 a side could be on the field of play. Wikipedia has the rules from 1887, and it also mentions the AFL type extra scoring posts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,574 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Yeah I fecking feared they'd have the slo-mo montages and that was overdone, but the actual archive footage they had was very good.

    Also my uncle popped up as one of the talking heads which is quite a proud moment given the legends that featured as well.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Mayo teams have really carried Lavans tradition too far. Excessive soloing, carrying the ball into tackles, heads down football and missed opportunities to give an early ball to forward lines. We've been perfecting it over decades.



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