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Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The Israeli commandoes ordered the people on the boat to throw all their mobile phones into the sea therefore there is no footage of the ramming and impounding of the boat. Just eye witness accounts which Israel will deny and accuse those making such accusations as Hamas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Netanyahu and his regime are actively prosecuting the war against Gaza. They are doing all of the bombing, plus displacing and starving of the population - this is 100% an Israeli war. Hamas are almost irrelevant at this point, putting up minimal resistance to the onslaught from the occupying power. Saying international governments should be putting pressure on Hamas (a relatively small and poorly armed militia) and not Israel to end the war is bonkers stuff.

    The only thing that can end this war is Israel announcing a ceasefire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    This from the BBC. It seems the order to ditch the phones came from inside the boat according to the boats security camera. No doubt I'd say carrying out an order from someone on an outside boat, ie Israeli commando, as he received a thumbs up from inside the boat when this was done. An on board security camera was broadcasting right up to that point and there's no mention at any point in the report of a ramming. But I'll take your post in good faith.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭Odhinn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    World's press all over it and Katz making a fool of himself.

    Goal achieved then.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,142 ✭✭✭MFPM


    The media coverage in Israel is carefully filtered riddled with propoganda, don’t be so disingenuous.

    They never expected to sail into Gaza, the whole event was symbolic, history demonstrates graphically how Israel deals with these events. The Gaza Freedom Floatilla is not a distant memory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    You appear to be significantly behind the latest news.

    1. GHF is the only authorised aid organisation - controlled by Israel of course which is very convenient if you want to starve the population.
    2. Israel controls everything entering Gaza - they are restricting everything. Even if medical aid gets in, where is is going? Very few functioning hospitals left anywhere.

    However, other than pointing out the lack of facts for your first 2 points, the rest of your post calls out actions that have been done over and over without budging Israel from destruction and devastation. Nothing will - and I suspect you know that and are just posting hypocrisy.

    Sure, all you're missing is suggesting Gazans sit in a circle and sing Kumbaya for the craic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    let them see what they are supporting before sending them back home.

    Except they aren't supporting October 7th at all.

    Why do supporters of Israel always have to resort to lies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    That is the only way they can function - they lie and they lie and they lie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    It did start of that way . Unsure now as of June 2025.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,908 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What started what way?

    Why do your posts never make any sense?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    I see that colossus and paragon of virtue, David Mencer, has given a nuanced and insightful press conference.

    What an odious little man.


    BBC:

    Israeli government spokesman David Mencer has given a press conference where he referred to the flotilla.

    He says the Israeli forces towing the yacht have given the 12 activists on board plenty to eat and drink - and adds that the group will be returned home in a short time.

    "On the subject of aid, the yacht had a meagre cargo but of course it will be sent into Gaza," he says.

    "To poor Greta, we say, who is really feeding Gaza and who is feeding their own ego.

    "When it comes to this flotilla, it wasn’t a flotilla, it was a selfie yacht. It was Instagram activism."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Seems no-one knows where the detained crew are.

    Hopefully they're not in an IDF detention centre. The IDF have form for using iron bars of course.


    BBC
    The Freedom Flotilla Coalition says it is "urgently" working to locate the crew of the Madleen. 

    A press officer for the campaign group, Hay Sha Wiya, says: "According to the Israeli Immigration Authority, they are not in its custody."

    Wiya says repeated attempts have also been made to contact Israeli military officials since the early hours of the this morning. 

    The BBC has not been able to verify whether the immigration authority has denied that the crew are in its custody - we have contacted the Israeli government for comment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭trashcan


    I reckon the only thing that saved this boat from being sunk, and (hopefully) the only thing preventing them from getting the full IDF “treatment” now is the high profile of Greta Thunberg. Would it be a step too far, even for this horrific Regime to do any damage to her. ?

    BTW people slagging her off here can seriously GTF. Yes, it was a publicity stunt to shine the spotlight on the deliberate starvation of Palestinians, and great credit to her and the rest of the crew for doing it. No amount of publicity for this is too much. And as for that toad Mencer saying the aid will be passed on. Hmm, yeah sure it will.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,239 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Those sick bastards are going to force the Madleen participants to watch their propaganda. Disgusting.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/09/live-israel-gaza-aid-ship-madleen-freedom-flotilla-coalition-greta-thunberg

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,308 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They should bring popcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,693 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Wait, footage which was produced and live streamed by hamas of their antics on Oct 7, chopping off heads etc, is now israeli 'propaganda'? Ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The world can see what Hamas did on Oct 7 but the Israelis make sure to hide as much as possible their mass murder afterwards. Israel never wanted reporters in Gaza to show what they are doing there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,239 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    As far as I'm aware, the Israelis haven't released their version of this propaganda - the one they show to people behind closed doors.

    They also presumably don't tell those that view the videos that a lot of the death and destruction was caused by them e.g. firing tank shells at kibitzum, and having their Apaches taking out scores of civilians at - and fleeing from - the Nova festival.

    It's their version of events, and so it is propaganda, and they are kidnapping the Madleen crew and forcing them to watch it ala Clockwork Orange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The same David Mencer who was chief of staff to current UK foreign secretary David Lammy. The same David Lammy who has instructed responses to queries about the interception of the British flagged vessel Madleen intercepted in international waters not be cleared with relevant bodies, Legal, Navy etc because the action is illegal.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Will the footage of the 40 beheaded babies that Joe Biden claim to see be shown. And the baby baked in the oven in front of his parents?

    The IDF will be claiming to have found tunnels under the Madleen next.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,529 ✭✭✭thereiver


    So Israel is allowing a tiny amount of food into Gaza so 1000s of people are at risk of starvation and the setup aid centres of course people are rushing to the aid centres to get food and there is a state of choas around those centres . Israel has designevd a new system of distribution of aid that cause the most uncertainty and danger to civilians instead of using the old system that the un used by simply driving trucks to certain areas . And there s a boat with Greta on it that was seized did they really think that the IDF would allow a boat to land and simply give food to civilians .

    they are lucky that the IDF did not sink the boat .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    They are lucky but Israel is sinking in a mountain of bad pr already so wouldnt contribute to it unnecessarily by sinking the ship. The activists I'd say knew this would be the outcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Forcing falsely detained prisoners to watch violent films against their will is 100% a crime, a clear breach of their human rights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The links between Israel and the current right wing of the Labour Party are off the scale (talk of many cabinet members receiving 'bungs' from the Israeli lobby in the past). Incredibly, even the Conservative Party seem far less compromised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Don't forget the multiple activations of the Hannibal Directive and footage of Israelis being shredded by IDF attack helicopters and Merkava battle tanks.

    Oh wait, you're right, that's not propaganda. Just War Crimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,242 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Do you even think Hamas did anything at this point, or is everything Israels fault?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,179 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The ousting of Corbyn was orchestrated by the Israel lobby. The whole manufactured “antisemitism “ emerged after Corbyn refused to commit to supporting all and any future Israeli military actions.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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