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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,182 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    So quicker processing from IPAs from safe countries and IPAs who already applied for asylum elsewhere in Europe, maybe I'm stupid but if a country is safe why are we accepting and if they have already applied elsewhere again why are we accepting, and yes I know anyone can claim asylum but surely some strict regulations should be put in place, someone could claim asylum everywhere, I wonder how many we have here that have claimed asylum in the UK

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭creeper1


    Newstalk spent a substantial part of their report on this asking the justice minister what the teacher was supposed to say to the class were one of their classmates disappeared suddenly.

    They went on and on about this.

    It seems the media are against even this token, puny effort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭creeper1


    If I were in charge it would not have taken four years to deport the Nigerians that left on that flight.

    It would have taken 4 minutes.

    Ridiculous.

    We have diplomatic relations and a Nigerian embassy in Dublin FFS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    We have an embassy in Nigeria too! It’s just moved into the European Union Common Embassy Complex. Anyone from Nigeria who wants to claim asylum should be doing so from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Saw on Euronews the temporary protection for Ukrainians is to be extended to 2027 and a voluntary return after that.

    Let's be honest here, most of them in Ireland won't be going anywhere if its a voluntary return so if the government tries to suggest they will all decide to return home and it will ease the housing crisis we know it's bs.

    All of them that are here should be working , there is no excuse for young able bodied people to be just loafing around the place doing nothing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    We've just spent a fortune building numerous little estates around the country for them, so can't have them lying idle and being used to reduce our own housing lists.

    edit, double checked the op.

    Post edited by prunudo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Is this you declaring your intention to put yourself up for election?

    If I ruled the world everyday would be the first day of Spring.....

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Yes, the 1951 Treaty does seem outdated.

    I see on the main page:

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    This is not the case.

    The thousands of Albanians, Americans, Georgians, etc. claiming asylum here are not like this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    We have had inflows of AS for the last twenty years.

    180,000 applicants over two decades.

    We have had plenty of time to become more efficient.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Bobby Kerr on Newstalk promoting an initiative to have more non nationals running businesses, said it was great when there was only 3 Irish people out of 300 in his startup



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭tom23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It's being debated now on the radio.

    Gibney is on for the SDs saying everyone who has kids should get an Amnesty.

    I despise that party.

    The government representative is beyond useless, they should have had O Callaghan on instead.

    Post edited by Galwayguy35 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,529 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    If AS are arriving at rates like 2,000 - 3,000 per month, and if some claims are being processed within 4 months, then why aren't we seeing thousands being removed each month?

    I think the answer is appeals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Totally. Our construction costs quite simply make it impossible to build the number of houses, we require now and will require in the future, with the immigrations numbers we are faced with. As I said previously our population increase last year of 130,000 people, equates to the combined population of Limerick and Ennis. Imagine having to provide the number of houses required for Limerick and Ennis in a single year, with the same number required in succeeding years. Just not possible. It doesn't really matter what the political parties do or say, the situation is unmanageable imo. regardless, of deportations etc, people will continue to come here in huge numbers, especially from Northern Ireland. All we can do is sit back and watch our systems unravel. The pressure on the housing market is incredible. This week a modest 4 bedroom house, that I am familiar with and in need of very significant upgrading, sold for over a million euro in Lahinch. Photos online. Report from Clare Echo below,

    ‘Thalassa located at Seapark in Lahinch received global interest ahead of its online auction this Friday. The four-bedroom property which went on the market for €650,000 sold for €1,005,000.00. There was a total of 99 bids made on the property during the auction before the virtual hammer dropped for just over €1m. Six different individuals were bidding for the Lahinch seaside home. Initially fourteen people had registered their interest in acquiring the home in North-West Clare but six bidders were in the final hunt for the property with a forty four people watching the auction online. Persons registered were from Co Clare while there was national and international interest in the auction. Estate agents DNG O’Sullivan Hurley confirmed to The Clare Echo they received expressions of the interest from people in three different continents around the world.'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    So arrive with kids claiming asylum and be guaranteed residence or make sure you have kids in the 4 years it takes to process your application and the social dems will say you have to stay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    The world knows we are a soft touch, thats why they come here and push their luck. The likes of Gannon, Gibney and everyone else that is making noise about this, is part of the reason we are in the mess we are.

    Anything other than enforcing the rules, and deporting those that shouldn't be here, is the only way. If we fail to do that, the country deserves everything it gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,494 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Apparently my post was an anecdote

    Here's the facts

    https://www.thejournal.ie/housing-delayed-ppp-6725958-Jun2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,454 ✭✭✭emo72


    That Sinead Gibney is an absolute headbanger. I hope rte keep getting her on. I'm sure she's doing untold damage to the SDs. Gaza kids sleep better knowing she's doing her nails.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://x.com/EoinLenihan/status/1931350294983520643

    I won't estimate the numbers, but good showing at the march in Cork today. No doubt people will knock the organisers and those that attended, but its clear the dissatisfaction with government policy is growing and more and more people aren't afraid to show and voice their concerns.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    RTE had an interview with an AS who was given a deportation order.

    He was born in Egypt, moved to South Africa, got into some kind of trouble there and then came here.

    And of course Gibney said he shouldn't be deported.

    What left leaning parties don't seem to get is if we aren't seen to be carrying out deportations it will be a pull factor for even more to arrive here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,116 ✭✭✭jackboy


    The rate that building costs and the selling prices are increasing means that something has to crack soon. If it's no longer possible to build large numbers of houses due to costs this will have a big impact on immigration. Once Immigrants know they cannot be accomadated in houses in Ireland they will stop coming. Young Irish will need to leave the country also to get accommodation.

    I can't think of a scenario where this problem will be solved in the medium term and we will start pumping out houses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,494 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    This is true. There's already little net inward migration from EU countries due most likely to housing costs. For an EU resident to move here, they need to see an improvement in their standard of living and having to share rooms with strangers probably does not achieve that. Most of the net inward migration is non-EU, and there's actually net outward migration of Irish people.

    But building more houses for fear immigrants will stop coming is, I think, getting our priorities wrong.

    Houses should be built for Irish people and those already here legally. Likewise, our immigration policy should be for the benefit of Irish people and those already here legally. If we have a chronic housing shortage, then we should reduce immigration to essential roles to reduce the impact on housing while at the same time increasing construction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Fair point but what's more likely? She was lying or our immigration officials fucked up? 50/50 I think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,146 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    What are you on about,there was no FU by immigration,deportation order was served ,subjects were deported legally,deportees failed to establish a bona fide case to be allowed to stay in this country.Stop trying to muddy the waters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Not much info there, what kind of trouble was he in in South Africa? I assume he's being deported to Egypt so can he safely live there despite what happened in SA?

    If not, there's no reason for him to claim asylum here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I'm just going by the RTE article that suggested she had an immigration meeting the following week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    Okay so we cannot afford to build social housing but we have no problem throwing billions on accommodating IPAs?

    Ireland's spending on accommodating international protection applicants, including asylum seekers, exceeded €1 billion in 2024, a 54% increase from the previous year. Since 2019, the total cost of accommodating international protection applicants has reached €2.5 billion. This includes direct accommodation costs, as well as other related expenses.

    No wonder most people are pissed off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭hamburgham


    Nope. For family reasons I think,he can’t go back to Egypt. Thing is,he was working as a bus driver so at least he is working and in a section which has recruitment problems.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    What do you mean not much info?

    I'm just passing on what was in the interview, get on to RTE if you want to know more.

    It didn't say which country he was being deported to but he said he didn't want to go back to either of them.



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