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2025 Irish EV Sales

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭joe1303l


    Don’t think Skoda dealers are that plentiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    3rd biggest selling brand in the country all the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    Skoda were a joke brand when I was a teenager, Lada esque. Funny how things change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    So were Kia/Hyundai. I remember my dad had a Hyundai Pony 1990 reg, was a terrible car.

    All near top of the class now to be fair to them, as are skoda



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


    Ya, Kia/Hyundai were awful yokes. Much improved these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭JohnySwan


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    This is how I remember Skoda😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    are those April model Y’s the juniper?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    No facelift cars have been delivered to customers but possible that a few of them are the demo/test drive cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Now that the May data is loaded, here’s how 2025 Jan-May looks for EV sales:

    May was only +5%, on low volume (1000 sales).

    year to date:

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    May sales, by model:

    Inster is flying, which is great. Those ID3 GTX sales are incredibly low, considering the product offering.

    Likewise the Y juniper deliveries are tiny - I’d have thought anyone who had an early order for one would’ve been in this delivery. I’ve seen one on the road, so they’re here anyway. I suppose July will tell a lot.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,323 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Cars by engine type for YTD

    Screenshot_2025-06-03-15-23-47-99_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg

    EV share up to 15.63%, PHEVs at 14.64%

    Non hybrid diesel and petrol down by 5-6% each

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,323 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Mixed bag on the commercial side, EV heavy commercial down almost 90% 😬

    Screenshot_2025-06-03-15-27-14-41_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg

    Sales in general are down around 16% on 2024 and there seems to be a big drop in artics and buses which could be behind the drop in EVs

    Any more big EV bus purchases in the works I wonder 🤔

    Better looking picture for light commercial

    Screenshot_2025-06-03-15-28-29-03_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg

    EV sales up 75% and PHEVs up to numbers worth counting

    Still in single digits with diesel dominating the market. Need more incentives to move commercial vehicles over to electric ASAP

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,017 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I think the target for EVs sold by 2030 in order to meet our commitments was 945,000.

    Last year the EPA said the maximum achievable was 640,000.

    About 150,000 cars are sold per year in Ireland so 750,000 units between now and the end of 2030.

    There are around 80,000 EVs in the national fleet.

    There will have to be additional incentives to encourage the laggards to transition to EVs. No apologies for using the label laggard. Cheap tax has always had a special place in the national psyche. Maybe 3 years of zero motor tax for EVs would get things moving. The excuse that some were using for years about the charging network not being good enough has been proven to be just a red herring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    cheap tax and cheaper running costs are the top 2 reasons people move to EV in Ireland. How often have you heard someone talk about the environment as their top buying choice? 😀

    The 2030 targets are beyond a joke - even with the much increased choice of EV’s available this year, with better ranges, software and almost universally cheaper prices, we’ve still only got to 15% market share of new vehicles.

    That’ll be about 15,000 new EVs this year into a national fleet of 2,500,000 vehicles (0.6%).


    giving zero road tax on new EVs only serves to incentivise people who can afford new cars, and shaft them on the resale when it’s out of warranty and zero tax. Its not a solution.

    Increasing the price of petrol and diesel might help, but only apply it on private cars (BIK/company cars appear to be the people most likely to shift to EV - so a stick rather than a carrot might move more private buyers)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,399 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    I think it has to be more than 80k in the fleet. The CSO estimated the total to be 73k in Nov 24 and with 16k added in 2025 makes it about 90k.

    But yeah, ridiculously low considering it's estimated that 1.6 million homes can install chargers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,313 ✭✭✭creedp


    Who does the most mileage in this country? Private or commercial drivers? Don’t really understand why there seems to be such a fear of a slightly bigger stick for the commercial sector but almost rabid dog hunger to stick it to private drivers!

    Talking to guy recently with an 11 month old diesel superb and 38k km already on the clock. He could do a Dublin/Cork daily return 2 to 3 times a week, as well as regular shorter journeys, easily done in an EV, but he wouldn’t hear of getting one as he considers the diesel is cheap and convenient on the company dime, especially as he does a load of private mileage completely free of charge. Must be the financially viable for the company or he wouldn’t have the choice. If we are really serious about accelerating to EVs why aren’t the business diesel financial incentives being reduced of a phased basis? This would do more that anything to move the heaviest diesel consumers over to EVs. Course a lot more politically palatable to just continue cheerlead the hammering of the private driver



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,323 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I have to agree with this view, commercial emissions are a pretty low hanging fruit at this point

    There's EV trucks out there that can do 500km with a full load and this has to be one of the easiest countries to cover with electric freight

    The issue seems to be that the trucks cost a lot more than the diesel equivalent (2-3 times as much I heard) and the electricity cost isn't that much cheaper given they need to use HPC chargers

    So there needs to be a serious incentive scheme to move over to electric. A combination of purchase incentives, charging incentives as well as lower tax and tolls would be good

    Couple that with a gradual reduction of the VAT reclamation for diesel and there would be no reason to stay with diesel commercial vehicles

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭PaulRyan97


    Company diesel cars are probably the lowest hanging fruit alright. Routinely up and down the country. Replacing one of those with an EV would be far better than replacing two or three regular private cars.

    The only problem is, despite the charging network improving, I don't think it's good enough to handle fleets of those DC fast charging everywhere, perhaps as much as twice a day.

    Taking Cork - Dublin, the M8 still has a shockingly poor density of fast chargers and the ones on the M7 are often packed. We need either more stations or more stalls at the existing ones (with proper queuing set ups).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    company diesel drivers doing high mileage are paying little or no BIK. Why would they even risk the inconvenience of an EV when it’s on the company’s dollar?

    A neighbour on my street has an EV company car, does a heap of city miles daily so they pay no BIK, but has a company hybrid or a superb diesel to do their weekly Cork trip. Those ICE cars are shared amongst a team of them for the long journeys.

    In their case, if the EV didn’t reduce their BIK, they wouldn’t have one. It’s just a car, they couldn’t care less



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Diesel on motorway would be cheap and possible. Grape than electric if you are paying fast charger prices


    my 2009 2.2L accord will do 47 mpg on motorway, that’s 5 L/100km. So €8 / 100km


    my ID4 does about 18kw/100km @50c/ kWh that’s €9 per 100km



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 theevguy


    The cost of fast charging is prohibitive and the inconvenience for longer trips let's say cork to Dublin etc. just makes it a pain.

    I know a couple of reps that were forced to drive evs and they are pulling their hair out with the inconvenience on longer trips.

    And this is coming from someone who has 2 evs. But I'm not doing regular long trips, rather regular medium trips of 150k. round which makes home charging ideal.

    But I'm not too rose tinted to see that an EV is not for everyone especially if you would have to regularly fast charge in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,613 ✭✭✭✭User1998


    If they at least allowed petrol to be VAT reclaimable it might push a lot of drivers to PHEV’s at least. Its ridiculous that VAT can’t be reclaimed on petrol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    We got our first ever petrol vehicle on the fleet recently, a Corolla 1.8 hybrid commercial. Price was really good compared to a Focus or a Golf diesel so we were happy to buy the petrol and forego the vat reclaim.

    Looks like our last diesel (apart from vans) will be leaving in July, X5 diesel being replaced by X5 PHEV if we can make the numbers work in the purchase for one of the directors.

    The rest are all fully EV now and once the employee is on board, it works. We have destination chargers at our 3 offices in Dublin Antrim Limerick now so interested office journeys no problem and other journeys they're happy to just charge enough to get back, no need to fully charge.

    Not for everyone but we have replaced 8 diesel bills with cheaper office charging.

    Admittedly im looking at it from the company financial point of view and not the employees but they are happy with the almost non existent BIK and helping company profits.

    We've never sold on an EV yet but planning on using them as hand me downs to up and coming staff as they have all been ultra reliable and costing nothing on maintenance really.

    Just have to think outside the box a little bit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    What about the environment 😉😄

    Totally understand your situation, it’s the same with my neighbour - just needs convincing, but it’s all about costs and financials, nothing whatsoever about the climate or environment. Private buyers are the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭freddieot


    Not to forget that for quite a few, at least that I've talked to, it's about the circa. 0-60 power and extra performance of EV, compared to an ICE equivalent that would be seriously more expensive. To this day I've never spoken to anyone about their EV and heard the environment being mentioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭kris_2021


    I test drove id3 gtx and base tesla model 3 on the same day. I have id4 and had id3 before that. Until test drive id3 gtx was nr 1 on my list - after test drive is model 3....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,323 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah, the network is improving rapidly but always seems to be a step behing where it needs to be

    In fairness, until recently I was doing a weekly commute from Dublin to the midlands and back. During winter I had to fast charge and found plenty of chargers without queueing once

    Dumping a load of company cars on all at once would definitely be too much. Hopefully a combination of charging incentives plus a gradual reduction of diesel tax breaks would ensure a quick but steady transition to electric

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭sk8board


    given the pages of threads here for months now about the GTX and the juniper Y, the Apr/May registrations for both was just 70 each.

    Am I missing something? - maybe they haven’t landed yet, but if I ordered e.g a Juniper back when it was announced, I’d have thought I’d have had it by now?

    The GTX is a bigger surprise tbh, because I know if I wanted one I could have one by now, and it’s within the VW stable, so there’s always a huge churn of golf drivers or early ID3’s to flip into one, and it’s a great value product

    April and May registrations for both:

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    All Juniper deliveries were for June at the time of ordering. A few made it here earlier and snook into the May figures but I’d expect the vast majority of new MY deliveries to be June onwards.

    But it’s also all relative. I said at the end of last year the MY will sell 1200-1500 units in 2025 so it’s will still be a low volume car compared to the rest of the sales fleet on our roads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    This seems like an element of FUD, perhaps unwittingly though. I'm up and down the M7 and M8 weekly and never had an issue anywhere - those routes are particularly well served and a pleasure to use.



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