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The 2025 All Ireland Senior Football Championship (Sam Maguire Cup)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭legendary.xix


    If they flipped league after provincial championship it would really highlight how you can lose 7 games and still qualify.

    If Derry had to win a qualifying round or two to get through to the All Ireland 16 - there would be some sense of achievement in actually qualifying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Markievicz Park is a far more natural venue than Breffni for it. Half the time and distance that it is from Mayo strongholds and 2/3 the trip from Ballybofey. Holds near enough 20,000 these days too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Sligo is closed for renovations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Ahhhhh, I missed that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Armagh v Galway last year was in Sligo, the previous year was Carrick-on-Shannon. There may well be a lot riding on it for Galway. Time that it was in Cavan.

    Sligo being closed fecks things up and Longford is small. Hyde Park is south of Mayo, and is three hours drive from Letterkenny, it is in no way natural as a neutral venue. Clones is two hours drive from Letterkenny and 2.5 hours from Castlebar.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,657 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    If Leinster rugby gets to the URC final on the 14th then Croke Park will host that final.

    So that indicates that the GAA never considered it a potential venue for Mayo v Donegal or anything else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭eastie17


    oh Galway have a big following for finals alright, the rest of the time not so much



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    That's the Saturday. Croker has had plenty of Saturday/Sunday games in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    He was absolutely fecking useless with Kildare. Wasted their talent coming through. Did nothing of note. Only positive argument I heard of McGeeney ‘s time with Kildare “He got them fit!”

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,163 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Limerick are at home that weekend so I wonder could it double up with the Cork game.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    As if Kildare have done fabulously since he left! Mind you, his development of Armagh was also on a Casement Park like timescale, but the finished product is sound.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    To be honest, even with the double header, Gaelic Grounds probably far, far too big for those games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,163 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya but assuming they don't opt for Rathkeale it will be open for Limerick anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,367 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Pretty sure it's closed, pitch being redone. Hyde Park being closed soon too for same reason, might be delayed for this round though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭davegilly


    Kildare are an absolute disgrace and have been for many years with the playing population they have. Wasn't McGeenys fault they were useless - it's a lack of belief and the fact that the county is infested with Dubs. As a result, Dubs are involved/running clubs all over Kildare (and to a similar degree, in Meath)

    Don't get me wrong, this is not a bad thing, they are fantastic volunteers etc. but it's not good for a county that are trying to compete with Dublin.

    The kids in Kildare looked up to the Dubs for the last 20 years, their parents were Dubs thus the kids are Dubs, the kids who had no connection to Dublin still supported Dublin cos their friends did - the Man Utd effect!! Kildare were useless so why would they support them when mammy and daddy and all their friends were going to croker to watch the Dubs!

    Clubs in Kildare brought and still bring former Dubs out to show them Sam/train the kids instead of Kildare footballers. Mental stuff. And the sad part is that kildare people themselves can't see anything wrong with this.

    God bless Micko. He put a bit of belief into them and you can see how well they did. They were useless then as well but a bit of belief is worth more than any superstar footballer. Just ask Armagh last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,808 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Often wondered about that. I have family living in Kildare and I'd always see the young folk- up to late teens - running about their estate in Dublin gear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I actually Mc geeney done a savage job with kildare. A crossbar denied them a shot at cork in 2010 and Cassidy scored a freak of a point in 2011 to knock them out. Kildare fotoball fell flat after he left in 2013 and hasnt recovered



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That is a fairly weak excuse to be honest. I know because I saw how good those Kildare lads were at underage in the last decade plus. It was all just wasted. I would agree with you Kildare had no drive or whatever you call it.

    The real ironic thing with Micko he brought in imports with him to change the culture. Then after he left Kildare fell into old habits. Maybe it is because Kildare are more horse racing country I don’t know.

    I was talking to a Kildare supporter in his 30’s and I was taken aback by what he said. He is “taking a rest” from Kildare this year.

    I thought to myself that sums it up!

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    I understand the issues around the kids supporting Dublin due to parents etc

    If these kids are playing Gaelic with Kildare clubs, and are good enough will play for Kildare

    The success of Louth at senior and now underage, and Offaly at underage level(both codes) has shown if you have a proper coaching facility and a proper plan in place for underage teams up, shows any county can do it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭davegilly


    But you've essentially agreed with me? Kildare have the footballers but the belief at senior level just isn't there. And trotting out ex Dubs to train kids all over Kildare clubs isn't going to help.

    In Tipperary, if a Cork hurling captain brought the Liam McCarthy into Tipp to show to the kids in Tipp and have their photo taken, he'd be lucky to get out of the county alive.

    Not so much in Kildare.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭davegilly


    Yes, of course any county can do it. Armagh are.prime example last year as well. But no Armagh man grew up supporting another county.

    I don't think people understand how important the level of hatred for other counties and belief in yourself is at the top level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    As a Dundalk man I can assure you I do understand. When Armagh won Sam in the early 00s every second house in Dundalk had a orange and white flag out the window.

    Thankfully we have been decent for last few years so the success last year didn't result in it been that bad around town



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Kildare are on the verge of big time hurling. The Joe McDonagh Cup Final will be live on RTE next Sunday Kildare v Laois in Croke Park. Before Kilkenny v Galway. Kildare have already beaten Laois in the rounds, along with other notable scalps Westmeath, Carlow and Down. The winners get to play in Leinster next year, just as Offaly did this year by winning the Joe McDonagh in 2024. Both the winners and losers will have a game against Dublin/Tipp in the AI series as well.

    I know nothing about Kildare hurling, maybe it is a Dublin influence, or geographical further south? It would be a nice double for the county to win the Joe McDonagh and the Tailteann. Winning the Tailteann would obviously get them into Sam next year, but if they don't they also have a chance via Division 2. Some progress happening at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Plenty of people in Dundalk have Armagh connections, one imagines quite a few Louth flags will appear in south Armagh if they are in the All Ireland final, I expect there were in 1957. You'd have seen Armagh flags in 2002 in Monaghan, but that didn't stop them beating Armagh in the Ulster championship in 2003.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,401 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Certainly lots of those little orange car flags littering the roads last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭Trampas


    I’m expecting Cavan or clones for Dublin and Derry with Cavan favourite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    If the semi-final crowd is anything to go by, they might stick with Aviva.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Pretty well documented that Naas hurling has been a driving force for the county.

    For me, that seems to be the template for the mid-tier counties- have one or two clubs that are really competing with the best in Leinster or Munster, same as what St Mullins and Mount Leinster have done in Carlow. Or indeed Kilmacud/ Na Fianna in Dublin.

    Dont know if its practical - but would be great to have more of a round robin in Leinster Club champs so the likes of Naas are getting more than just the one or two games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,504 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Hope it is Clones, Cavan in my mind nightmare for any sort of traffic at all.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,754 ✭✭✭irishgeo




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