Shooting in Carlow

Most people with mental health issues don't go shooting up shopping centres.

yes this is in fact correct, this means im very unlikely to do so, but some will!

absolutely correct! thank you

I never said that every nasty act committed by a person cannot be due to a mental health illness.

The poster I was replying to seems to bring up every nasty act as “society’s mental health failures.” Always looking to blame society for these acts.

Even on the Satchwell case it was almost implied by same poster.

again, yes, we are failing to adequately provide health services to people that are prone to chronic mental health issues, which in some cases yields catastrophic outcomes, again, this is well documented to occur, all over the plant, including here in ireland! so yes, the problem is in fact with us, and of course the offenders themselves, some of you folks need to spend some time with folks that struggle with such issues!

yes, in an ideal world this would be the case. But sadly, this is not the case when you’re dealing with a scummy mob mentality and reaction

Not quite. The news is completely incredible; on reading it in The Journal, you became completely incredulous!

on rte 1 news there now, scary stuff

Yes, this particular incident, the outcome was not scummy, but sorry, carrying a deadly weapon into a SC, and discharging it is scummy behaviour in my view… anyway, my point was more why do some always rush to blaming society and our mental health services. For all we know this person may well have had excellent care, or may well have had no care (due to their own non-disclosure/engagement).

Confirmed the victim* is Evan Fitzgerald according to the Irish Mirror.

Gardai believe he didn't intend to target anyone. Just ended his life in a rather unusual way.

With this information now in the public domain let the man's family have some peace.

lot of scummy tweets like this spreading fake news that the man targeted children

https://x.com/ItsEnzoSzn/status/1929497111046832572?t=w8oWYuYNpsH9HU9CFyJR0Q&s=19

*A person that ends their life by suicide is always regarded as a victim. You can't commit suicide because there's nothing illegal about taking your own life since 1993

This was not simply a suicide in a public area. This person caused mass panic and terror, firing off shots in a crowded shopping area, and according to witness statements in the newspaper, even warned individuals to leave while openly holding the gun, saying it was "about to get very loud". This behaviour cannot be just excused.

100% our mental health services are inadequate, but it's a cop out to blame this for every criminal act. Except in very specific and limited circumstances, people with mental health issues are still responsible for their actions. Any argument to the contrary begs the question of whether such people should instead be subject to restrictions, monitoring and controls - is that what is being suggested if they are excused as being simply at the mercy of their illness and not to blame for anything they do? Regardless, we don't know right now whether this person ever sought help. We do know he was let out on bail with easy access to a firearm, having already demonstrated at the very least poor judgement and reckless behaviour. That is very concerning.

This is an awful incident that has affected a lot of people, and I hope those traumatised by it can get past it. I hope the family of the person involved get support and it is very sad for them - an awful way to have to deal with loss of a loved one.

we, 'society', i.e. including you and me, have decided the best thing to do is to largely ignore the needs of those of us with mental health issues, not provide adequate health care supports for those of us with such needs, again, thats me and you, inclusive!

but dont worry, this problem will eventually come knocking on your door, then you might be like me, shouting and screaming about it on forums such as boards, and dont worry, very little will happen, and who knows, you might just pick up a weapon and…..

again, dont worry, nothings gonna change, this situation isnt gonna change anything, nothing!