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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    This thread has posters flip flopping from being

    Angry when immigrants are not doctors and engineers.

    And Now angry that imaginary immigrants might be doctors or nurses.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’m going to attempt to decode your post, no offence, it’s gibberish.

    Are you asking incentivise the career for Irish or immigrants? I clearly meant Irish trained doctors and nurses, otherwise how could they leave.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    How will you incentivise them?

    @RobbieTheRobber unless I've been angry when immigrants are not doctors or engineers this response is completely irrelevant.

    It is true though, Europe and the west is sucking poorer countries dry of talent.

    Post edited by RoyalCelt on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    A parent, from a migrant background, was attacked by a youth wielding a knife today after dropping his child to school in Basin Lane. That didn’t make the RTE News App.
    However this is currently on the app


    Man charged over online threats on social media pages

    A 50-year-old man has appeared before a special sitting of Portlaoise District Court charged with offences relating to online threats shared on his social media page.

    Beniamin Petre, of no fixed abode, was charged under the Harassment, Harmful Communications and Related Offences Act 2020 and under the Criminal Justice (Hate Offences) Act 2024.


    Based on your “logic “ it appears that RTE are deliberately covering up attacks on migrants.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    By paying them well, giving them reasonable working conditions. In fairness we could ask them what they want.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Does this just apply to native doctors and nurses or any doctor and nurse in the world if they were to come here?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    First you need to define native. But you won’t. Remember

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭enricoh


    D4 residents are utterly distraught that they haven't been able to find a suitable premises for asylum seekers and be able to play their part! Something will turn up, possibly not this year or next tho!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,008 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Ireland's immigration blight was on GB News recently


    It's funny if you think about it, a UK news channel reporting what's really happening in Ireland

    Our government don't give a **** about Irish people.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A 7 minute video that sums up years and years of complete mismanagement of immigration policy. Imagine being in a space where our own government, our own opposition parties like Labour, Sinn Fein, Soc Dems etc, and our own media most importantly will not just come out and deal head on with the absolute travesty regards the disgraceful immigration policies in Ireland. We now have GB News and Telegraph reporters openly chuckling as they outline how ludicrously wrong we gave got this.

    Now that report was really just dealing with the asylum seeker angle. It absolutely must be stated that we have dealt abysmally with all elements of immigration policy - work visas for non nationals, overseas college students and language course and of course over 100k Ukrainians arriving here actively encouraged by social welfare benefits twice and three times the amount they could receive in other EU countries.

    This is a numbers game. The numbers haven't added up for a long long time. It's absolutely astonishing to see anyone defend this complete farce at this stage. It would sicken you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    The UK discovered that family reunification from foreign nurses ended up with their family members being welfare dependents which undone any advantages for taking in these nurses. We had foreign nurses here protesting to get family brought over but that means child benefits and more education and healthcare demand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭prunudo


    While its great to see Michael Murphy giving it coverage, I wouldn't be taking advice on how to handle immigration based on the UK experience. Given something like 80% of asylum seekers are coming across the border, we are suffering in part due to the UK and French inability to act on the channel crossings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The mods said it's not to be discussed. And I'm glad because I shouldn't have to define what I am as an Irish native.

    You've somehow after a few replies avoided providing any methods to your "solutions".



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,998 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I provided solutions, you dragged it down with your “native Irish” nonsense. I want the best people to stay and work here I don’t care where their grannies are from.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,242 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’ve very elderly relative in a North Dublin hospital. She won’t be going home. She needs around the clock care. Her eyesight is failing and she is a major falls risk due to a combination of that and her general physical condition , it was a fall that put her into that hospital. The decision was made weeks ago by her family with the doctors…that she cannot go home. She knows herself..

    As of weeks ago they have applied to get her into a couple of residential homes in her area. Problem is the waiting list for rooms. There isn’t even a bed in a step down or transitional facility available to her at the time of writing this post…The hospital she is in has over 170 beds. She’s taking up one yet… she’s not ill, she’s well enough to now to leave the acute healthcare facility, just not able enough to return to live at home… there is no further treatment or acute care they can offer….so essentially through no fault of her own, she’s depriving another patient of a bed and healthcare.

    So with these examples why are people still cheerleading the influx of people arriving to Ireland at the levels they are ? It’s nuts. When the services are not there for the current population. There is no way to keep providing for the influxes of people and the population growth we are seeing. There just isn’t.

    And if whatever government start making a play for more of peoples assets and our wellbeing…to try bridge the gap, this could all end eventually very nastily……

    Mod - warned for ignoring moderator instruction re anecdotes

    Post edited by Leg End Reject on


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,816 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i'd love to know what percentage of care staff working in nursing homes are immigrants.

    i.e. without them, i suspect the nursing home system would grind to a total halt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    TheJournal.ie ran an article about the Basin Lane incident, not a peep about the Abbeyleix incident.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    A non-EU employee can happily, or maybe not so happily rent, I don't particularly care about their desire to own a home in Ireland. I highly suspect their employers don't care either as long as they put in the shift.

    Blocking non-EU, or hobbling their desire through 100% taxes (hello Spain) so that local Irish people don't have to compete with non-EU persons purchasing a home is certainly a good move.

    Nobody is suggesting blocking non-Irish workers from working in the country, that is a fantasy dreamed up for some unknown reason.

    More homes are certainly needed, and first and foremost for the Irish person. As I said, newly built homes or pre-loved homes going for sale should be blocked to non-Irish purchasers who are only here a short while - be they individual purchasers or foreign investors. In fact, the foreign investor should be slapped with a 10,000% tax, aka fook off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Of what use are the inverted commas in this post?

    Do you accept that a distinct Irish nation exists?

    Do you accept that an indigenous population exists on the island of Ireland?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭BlueSkyDreams


    I think some folks here are saying that non- irish shouldn't be allowed to work here.

    Hopefully I am wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I'd love to know how many failed AS actually leave the country.

    Who knows, maybe someday we will both get an answer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Nobody is giving out about people who come here legally to fill those jobs.

    But of course you left out the so called AS with no documents most of whom are economic migrants .

    O Gorman has a lot to answer for.

    McEntee as well.

    But the tide is turning , people have had enough of woke leftists



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    Still hiding behind that lie I see. The mods have not said that but it’s much easier to use it as an excuse than to reveal what you actually believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Some shouldn't, that's why we have VISAs. I think restrictions on VISAs and jobs which qualify need to be reviewed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,456 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Bacik has comments disabled on any X post she makes about immigration.

    Typical of the Irish left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    At the behest of seeming archaic, I think assassinations of identified smugglers should be on the cards.

    Illegal immigration can threaten the demographic and culture of a country beyond the control of the people. As such it's a matter of national security, which should trump all other considerations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    You think that murder is a solution. Remarkable insight into how you think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The concept of "native Irish" is far right nonsense. It's been widely debunked here multiple times now.

    We ourselves are a nation of migrants who went all over the world. Now the boot is on the other foot and people want to come here to flee war, famine and oppression. They should all be welcomed into the country with open arms. There's a potential demographic collapse coming and we are in desperate need of people to keep the health service running and to pay the pensions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭riddles


    this tired narrative has already been trotted out about 999 times on Boards but congratulations you’ve made it 1000.



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