Liverpool car incident

Yeah but when you're in a car in the middle of an authorised crowd celebrating a major sports win, you can't expect to drive along the road as normal. He was stuck in the crowd, and for once the pedestrians had to be given priority. It's pretty rare for that to be the case, yet even then, some drivers just can't bear to give any room at all to pedestrians ever.

So it's really not like the sort of incident you describe. If it had happened a few hours later at night, with a seriously drunken crowd, then yes, he might well have been afraid, but this was a family atmosphere. I heard a BBC journalist reporting on it (just because he'd seen it first hand) who said he'd been there with his wife and children. One of his children was quite traumatised.

In incidents like this the media report what the cops tell them to report. Blame the cops if ur not happy about the reporting.

Depressing but true. Especially the bit about opposition fan's future behaviour. A Man Utd fan I worked with years ago told me an appalling story about Leeds fans taunting Man U fans at one game about the Munich air disaster.

Probably another Whatsapp voice message.

Reasonable my hole. Though armed they never fired a shot at anyone. They gave themselves up, were transferred to the IRA who brought them to the back of Casement, stripped them naked and shot them in the head.

A sickening episode for anyone who has any humanity, I'll never forget it.

It's to stop all the scumbags and keyboard racists from starting another race riot. Police did well there.

You're confusing the subsequent actions by the IRA with what the crowd did. Not the same thing.

Aye, if the Police publicly jump to the conclusion and use the term 'attack' in the media before any semblance of an investigation has been completed and CPS making a charging determination,any defence barrister would (rightly, legally speaking) have a field day with the case being prejudiced. I blame those ghoulish Netflix murder porn documentaries and the (awful) US justice system they usually refer to for people's complete ignorance as to how criminal investigations and the resultant court process are actually conducted here and the UK.

Thankfully nobody has died. And I hope those injured make a full recovery. I stand by my earlier assertion, that I don't think it was deliberate.

I think this man has wound up in an absolute nightmare, joined by everyone he hit. I'm going to find an image, there's a man(as well as others) attacking the back of the driver's car. He has a lot to possibly answer for in my opinion. Where were the Police initially? And even at the end, watch the police, some of them seemed reluctant or unsure of what they should do.

It's beyond strange though. Even if you're afraid, watching the scenes of the people being ploughed down how could you do that knowing they could be killed or maimed for life. It's harrowing. Where were the police when he was initially attacked?

Whatever, about arguments, it's clearly not premeditated.

Speed? What were the speeds?

"Witnesses believe the vehicle was travelling at 20mph, as it swerved on and off the crowded pavements and roads."

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/car-drives-into-crowd-liverpool-supporters-city-centre-during-trophy-parade/

If this man set out to murder as many innocent pedestrians as he possibly could, he objectively failed. He stopped the car when he could have kept on going.

Look, I don't know, we're all speculating, he stopped where there were police, which maybe he thought could protect him.

I'm not ruling out that he had momentary road rage after being attacked. But I think he feared for his life.