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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    "Bending the knee" - lol.

    It's much tougher for the EU to pull together rapidly and act quickly than it is for a 1 party (+ almost 1 man) dictatorship like China, but it must be obvious even to you now what is necessary here. Grovelling before the Trump admin. will invite further demands to lick his boots while you are down there, or win you a kick in the face later!

    I think Trump is going after the EU now precisely because China (and maybe Japan/S. Korea behind closed doors) told him they won't be bullied by the US, and if he tries the US economy won't escape from this struggle without at least a bloody nose.

    The EU tried to negotiate + generally treat this admin. in a somewhat normal fashion and acted quite cautiously and diplomatically (as is its wont), so Trump (who doesn't respect that at all) marks it down as potentially ripe for more bullying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,555 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I usually enjoy your "material",but trying to flip through the thread "catch-up " and seeing you reposting this nonsense repeatedly doesn't make it better, sometimes less is better .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I look forward to Trump pushing too hard at people, so he will get a pushback from the thousands who's supports he is cutting off. The Mexican wall is nothing compared to the one he might end up facing. Twice in the past three weeks he's caused a near stampede, the next one could walk all over his miserable hide.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,825 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,275 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    In the coming days there is going to be panic right across industry and demands made of the government

    Which industries will be hit first in your esteemed opinion? And what demands will immediately be made?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    This could literally be a post about Brexit that you posted years ago.

    You were wrong then, and you are wrong now. Just stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,620 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    It doesn`t take much reading between the lines to see that your real worry is that the E.U. will not be "bending the knee" but hitting the big orange baby where it hurts with their own tariffs, specifically directed at the swing states and his MAGA heartland states.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Seeing America get fleeced in real time, by a draft dodger having a military parade in his honour…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


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    That didn't take long and it reads as more sensible than the threat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    A statement of stating the obvious, He is a rabbit caught in headlights . Time to earn your wages now Mehole. Sound bites are all well and good , but he doffed his cap before paddy's day ,time to show what you can do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump on McCain - "He's a war hero because he was captured. I prefer people who weren't captured"

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    He did indeed, it is a classic Trump interview, he is an utter clown.

    He even says he is not a war hero…just think about that. Born with the silver spoon and bailed out, never worked a hard day in his life, and he says that about John McCain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,263 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    He cant do anything except maybe put some kind of new enormous local tourism tax centered around Doonbeg co. Clare

    Kicking American troops and transport of weapons out of Shannon would be another really strong message

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Am I right in saying and words are key here he is only " recommending " an increase, but hasn't imposed the increase or am I clutching at straws? God why am i even trying to decipher this imbeciles social media comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭storker


    Yes, five-time-draft-deferment Captain Bonespurs really said that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I believe he used similar words when he recommended backtracking on the reciprocal tariffs or it could have been the climb down on the China one (hard to keep track). Recommending to Scott 'Barbie' Bassett to drop them etc…

    It's going to be harder for Trump to convince the US public that the EU will be paying the tariffs or that prices won't increase. I think the US public are well learned in how tariffs work now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    I'm generally the most apolitical person you could meet, but as tongue in cheek as your comment was , I certainly wouldn't be against that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Just like the UK tried to drive a wedge into the EU, it didn't work out.

    The EU is not perfect, but it is successful, and each member state benefits greatly from it. Trump and his team are terrified of the EU, simple as that. They are a threat to them in many ways, Trump himself doesn't understand the concept of the EU, remember he had to be told 10 times by Merkel that America couldn't do a trade deal with Germany, it had to be with the EU.

    Along with that, the EU will make mince meat of the yanks when it comes to trade.

    I can't wait to watch Trump back peddle on this yet again. His sorry old act of claiming to solve a problem that he caused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    So he might have been advised to have a line of retreat, as it were, by implying he is not totally behind the idea. Navarro 0 - Besssent 1, if one is to believe that those two people are promoting completely different approaches on getting deals done.

    I've started taking notice on how Trump ends his statements to the American people as if he's addressing his subjects. Most of the other US presidents said "God bless America" at the end of their addresses to the nation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,076 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Kermit. What course of action do you think the EU, and Ireland, should do?

    Just agree to whatever demands Trump is making? Will that include allowing any and all agriculture products in, which would decimate our agriculture sector?

    As Ireland exports, relatively, much more to the US than other EU countries, we are actually benefiting from being treated as one with the EU. Had Ireland been separated, his liberation day would have seen us get something like 65% tariffs.

    So while you continue to panic over every utterance of Trump you have never laid out how you think Ireland should deal with Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    I'm sure the American public won't mind paying the 50% tarrifs on their medication, or maybe they will just stop taking their meds for a few years until Donald brings back all the production to Murica....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,325 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Trump is all hype. 50% on EU imports will drive inflation in the US. So.e goods will not be able to be replaced and US consumers will pay the tariffs. As the economist Dan O'Brien said this is economic warfare.

    Trump is stumped. His so called peace initiative in Ukraine has failed as Putin will not negotiate, he also know that Europe will not sta d for Putins demands. He is muddying the waters.

    Last time he exempted medicines from carries this time it will be the same. And then tge bond markets will make him fold. The reason the US has trade deficits is because of there education system. The EU will hit the US services from X to Facebook to Netflixs. Levies and taxes on them will see him fold.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Trump bragged he'd get the 180ish trade deals all signed in 100 days, me thinks he's realized he's backed himself into a corner. The UK maybe happy with 10% across the board tariffs (excluding steel and motors with quotas), but I don't think the EU would class that as acceptable. More to the point, the UK deal is not a trade deal, it's just an agreement which Trump can change on a whim. It's not really how the EU operates and conducts trade deals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭thereiver


    See dating fireball blog. It explains it would take years to build a factory the size of a large city to build American iphones and then find 1000s of workers to work for a low wage assembling the parts for phones it's literally impossible trump will be gone in 3 years .apple sells 150k phones every day. They have a plan to build American phones in India.

    Its like if ibm built a factory in Dublin we need 100,ooo workers in 6 months We pay 10 euro an hour where would the workers live we are already at full employment here .

    The price of an iphone depends on being made in country's like India or china where there's 1000s of workers who can work for low wages in giant factory the size of a city

    Dj Vance says we need to help people have more kids oh we are going to pass a bill that removes medicaid from 10 million people and stops payments to hospitals that provide medical care for workers old people and people on low income The problem is trump does not know how the economy works how tariffs work Tourism to the us is falling as people are afraid of getting hassled by ice .

    It simply makes no sense to make certain products in America trump is causing chaos and has decreased the value of the dollar and increased the debt burden by billions of dollars .

    He,s like a bull in a china shop . Moody's has downgraded us debt for the first time in 100 years . There's an article on dating fireball theres a lunch for investors in trumps digital coin it sounds very shady .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Bessent used to work with Soros, which is all sorts of delicious fun that can be ignored and not commented upon.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,635 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: Kermit is taking another break from the forum for trolling. No need to quote them as they have no right of reply. Thanks.



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