Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

No wouldn't route for the Chinese. At least America will have elections and Trump won't be involved. Remind when the elections in China are again.

That's why I called that angle nonsense as an explanation for Trump's conduct wrt Ukraine.

Yes, three pages back.

And in the media, talk of a 'reverse Nixon', of the US trying to weaken the ties between Russia and China, so that in an eventual Pacific showdown between US and China, Russia is not involved.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250228-trump-s-russia-pivot-keeps-china-guessing-on-ukraine

If the Trump administration is able to pull off a ‘reverse Nixon’ and (partially) wean Russia off China, Beijing would see its hold over a no longer isolated Russia diminish significantly. A hastily brokered deal over Ukraine would also allow the US to refocus its efforts on the Indo-Pacific, which China naturally does not want. 

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2025/02/trump-pushing-europe-and-china-closer-together-europe-should-tread-carefully

Trump has picked a trade war with the entire world? The 50% EU tariff is the same as the China 130% or whatever tariff, a ploy to get a better deal. The tariff with Russia doesn't matter as USA trade with Russia is tiny; less than that of Germany despite the size of USA economy

In a fragmenting world order with Russia constantly agitating you don't think the EU should be in a position to protect itself without needing help from USA?

USA has done a deal with China on tariff I guess that was part of the deal?

IN terms of adversaries, China is the only comparable show in town to USA. One is autocratic with some of the advantages that brings in terms of long term view and unity of purpose.

Russia/China combined trade along with Russia/India combined trade has ballooned due to the war and sanctions. Russia China is at circa 250 billion, which is where the EU was 4 years ago. The war has been really good for China and India with cheap fuel on tap from Russia. More sanctions just drop the price from them and lead to closer ties between China Russia.

Any war game simulations I've heard of with a Taiwan invasion ends badly for the States; trying to project naval and air power that distance from home against a formidable enemy close to home is really really difficult. Tying China into a guerilla type war with munitions spread among Taiwan population along with drone warfare seems like the best way to tie China in and block up their shipping channels. Keeping Russia energy off line in such a scenario would be key.

You can disagree with Trump and his cronies as to the threat from China but from what I've heard they seem to be super focussed on China right or wrong.

In general this thread is more like a football fans thread with sober commentary rare

I did say 'almost'. As in, that's how low my opinion of the US is right now.

Trump had no issue starting a trade war with nuclear China, but not once was he willing to put any tariff on Russia, or sanctions . It really is so suspect, world leaders need to be talking in private to trump, asking him straight out what Putin has on him. I would not care if there was a cover up, as long as Putin was off Trump back. If UK, France, Germany, EU, everyone agreed to dismiss any tape as Ai ,and to stick to it, then Trump is released of this blackmailer

Putin has the sex tape that he made with Donald

There could be some people around him who buy it (hairbrained idea of splitting China and Russia), but ultimately they must be really stupid and ignorant (as well as evil!).

A key strength of the US is alliances and relationships of trust built up over multiple decades since WW2 both in Asia and Europe.

Republicans are merrily wrecking that in Europe now, as if it is completely divorced from rest of the world. I think the Asian countries will all be watching what is playing out in Europe and drawing their own conclusions from it about risks of relying on the US to help in the face of any confrontation with China.

It's extremely unlikely the US can separate Russia and China under their current leadership and they will more likely end up alienating their Asian allies, as well as the Europeans, and weakening themselves

IMO Russia and China will carry on much as they have always done under Putin/Xi's period of rule, Trump & Republican's love bombing Putin or not.

They will mistrust and attempt to attack + undermine both the US and its (possibly former!) allies and retain a closer relationship with each other than either of this pair does with the US.

More fireworks

Sir turn up the TV sound
The war has started on the ground
Just love those laser guided bombs
They're really greatFor righting wrongs
You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3, 000 miles away3, 000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
We zap and maimWith the bravery of being out of range
We strafe the train
With the bravery of being out of range
We gain terrain

Who is that directed at?

If me feel free to quote anything complementary of Trump I've ever posted. I'll wait.

Triggered?

Given how often it's mentioned that he's an actual FSB agent here as fact, I spent about 30 mins reading various left leaning sources to see if it has any validity.

What I read confirmed what I know; he's a crook but no evidence he's an agent.

Someone else posted that Trump has unlimited power after the passing of some budget bill; I asked for a link because it sounds like nonsense. I've no doubt the bill will suit the super rich in the States but I've no idea where his new super powers come from.

Maybe you are okay reading drivel is it aligned with your leanings, I'd rather just read facts.

"A Ukraine invading, massacring, raping, child stealing, civilian attacking, executing pows apologist."

You can withdraw the above quote anytime you like.

I've spent over two months in the Ukraine in the last decade including 10 days since the war started. I know lots of ordinary Ukrainians directly effected by Putin's war.

I'm not going to be lectured to by someone not even man enough to quote a post.

Lviv.

Kiev in 16 & 17.

Still waiting for that apology

Upset?

Where did I say you were left leaning?

I checked left leaning sources for Trump agent story. It's a simple concept

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@JJayoo

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