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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,957 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So he's just had a tantrum and had to surrender and now he's going it again for some reason. Hopefully, the EU is ready to retaliate and retaliate hard.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,634 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I feel some degree of sympathy with anyone tasked with taking this clown show seriously. How are you meant to have genuine negotations or planning when there's such obvious, unambiguous buffoonery on display - global trade policy predicated on the gibberish numbers plucked out of one man's arse on any given day. A man who, incidentally, I'm still not convinced even understands what a tariff is or how it works.

    He'll change his mind again, and the whole circus continues, and the richest people likely benefitting all the while. Mortifying stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Remember when the republicans were moaning about democrats being socialists/communists?

    I remember

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The tariffs announcements has me wondering what's lurking around the corner that Trump is distracting us from. His house budget debate win only moves it to the senate for their approval. The deals he made to get it this far may be only the tip of the iceberg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    It's early in the day, there's always scope for back peddling especially when the US market opens.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    No doubt in the next hour or so he'll go for a trip to the Jacks and tweet out that the tarrif is now either 100% or has been cancelled.

    That is the truth of how he operates, he changes his mind at the slightest whim, almost as if he had dementia...

    The sooner he is out of office and the world markets do not have to deal with this chaos, the better.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,560 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Short of a Big Mac doing the world a favor or some of the GOP growing some balls we have 3.5 more years of this bs.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,957 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    My investments don't need this. I should have stuck with the wisdom of my forefathers and stuffed my cash into a mattress.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    I doubt he'll last 3.5 years. His diet is shocking, and his body doesn't look to great shall we say.

    Just means that slimeball J.D Vance would be sworn in... might be a case of better the devil we know than the devil we don't.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,083 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Ahh will you stop he looks a lot more helthy than Ozzy Ozbourne who's not much younger and Willie Nelson who smokes like a choo choo train is 92. Trumps got a good few years left.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm just assuming my pension should recover within the next thirty years. 😂 If not, we're probably in way bigger trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Vance won't command the same blind loyalty as the current GOP does to Trump so his power and control would be severely restricted compared to Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭EmergencyExit


    Markets can't operate in this way for another 3.5 years. I've Truth Social notifications activated on my phone because my job is dependent on it and when Trump's post dropped everything went nuts. Markets in their very essence operate on buying and selling speculation and unexpected world events but his lunatic has moved the dial like never before with this tariff bulls hit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,739 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Manufacturing iPhones completely in the US (given that so many of the materials to do so will still be tariffed as they come from other countries, and that Apple doesn't currently have the infrastructure and facilities to build those iPhones) would likely cost more than the 25% blanket tariff Trump could put on them.

    Dumbass man makes dumbass decision that dumbasses will think is great.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,957 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    My employer is a higher education institution with a pension several hundred million in debt!

    "Invest", they said. "Grow your money", they said. "It'll serve you well in future", they said.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,068 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    And double the price of an iPhone no doubt.

    How can he pick on individual companies like that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    What does he mean when he says "I am recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union, starting on June 1, 2025" - I don't think he has announced tariffs before by saying he is "recommending" tariffs. So, is it supposed to be some sort of bluff with the intention of scaring the EU into concessions?

    Like how it worked really well with China!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,957 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Because he can. He's captured the entire executive branch, the most important part of the judiciary and enough of the legislature that nothing short of an uprising can stop him.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Well Harvard are suing him - New lawsit from former friend Tim Cook incoming also - guaranteed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,194 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    We can't go on like this.

    The EU need to sanction the US at this stage.

    Trump is an unhinged despot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    The markets are doing just that

    Especially the bond one

    The problem with Trump Communism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    A 50% tariff is no different to 150%. It basically ends trade. It seems to include pharma too this time.

    Devastating for Ireland is a vast understatement. The EU will have to give a lot more to avoid an economic emergency here similar to 2008.

    Unfortunately from what I know so far of the discussions the EU has been putting forward proposals on tariffs and other barriers as if it is an equal of the United States. It is not and won't get away with pretending it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,538 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    No.

    They need to be absolutely delighted that they getting under his skin, and absolutely not rolling over for one of his conman deals like the UK had to take.

    They need to be wrapping up comprehensive deals with Canada and Mexico and India and anyone else who's willing to be serious about such things.

    They need to be having grand summits with ASEAN and MERCOSUR and the African Union, and basically getting on with growing trade and cooperation with everyone else on the planet who will engage fairly.

    They need to be selling the European defence industry around the globe and facilitating a massive growth in that space, so we can begin to fully divest from American armaments.

    They need to be piling on more and more pressure on Putin and more and more pressure on Netanyahu, independent of America's naive and untrustworthy policies.

    Let Trump levy 50%. The Republicans will soon be hearing it in their Golf Clubs and at Church on Sundays when their constituents are seeing the sticker prices on Mercedes and Porsches and on fine French wine and Belgian chocolate going through the roof, not to mention the high-end industrial machinery, technology and chemicals that come from Europe to make American factories and farms work properly.

    The EU is more economically powerful than the US, and its time to flex that muscle unashamedly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,135 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    We absolutely should suck it up and not humour that absolute orange tool



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    If you want mass unemployment and collapse in tax revenue within months then, yeah, suck it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭yagan


    Wouldn't it be truer to say with Trump Communism your currency ends up worthless?

    I remember reading about the Argentinian devaluation back in 2000 and how people ended up storing wealth with simple gold rings as a substitute in some big transactions. Easy to stash on the person, accepted everywhere and a hedge from devaluation.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    This is just advocating cowardice as policy. It's pathetic.

    It also, fundamentally, doesn't work. No matter what you do to appease him, he will just bring tariffs back in a fit of pique later on as he has conclusively proven. In contrast he seems to back down quickly and embarrassingly in the face of strength.

    You act as if this isn't something that will hurt the US every bit as much, if not more in many cases (pharma being the obvious one)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    He does have a track record of bankrupting entities that one would assume are impossible to bankrupt



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,957 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Appeasement didn't work in 1938 and it won't work now. Trump sees his own supporters as nothing but rubes and marks. It's fair to say that he hates Europeans even more.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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