Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

2Greyfoxes · 23-05-2025 12:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477601#Comment_123477601

I doubt he'll last 3.5 years. His diet is shocking, and his body doesn't look to great shall we say.

Just means that slimeball J.D Vance would be sworn in... might be a case of better the devil we know than the devil we don't.

drunkmonkey · 23-05-2025 12:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477648#Comment_123477648

Ahh will you stop he looks a lot more helthy than Ozzy Ozbourne who's not much younger and Willie Nelson who smokes like a choo choo train is 92. Trumps got a good few years left.

Wolf359f · 23-05-2025 12:45PM

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Vance won't command the same blind loyalty as the current GOP does to Trump so his power and control would be severely restricted compared to Trump.

eightieschewbaccy · 23-05-2025 12:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477647#Comment_123477647

I'm just assuming my pension should recover within the next thirty years. 😂 If not, we're probably in way bigger trouble.

EmergencyExit · 23-05-2025 12:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477601#Comment_123477601

Markets can't operate in this way for another 3.5 years. I've Truth Social notifications activated on my phone because my job is dependent on it and when Trump's post dropped everything went nuts. Markets in their very essence operate on buying and selling speculation and unexpected world events but his lunatic has moved the dial like never before with this tariff bulls hit.

Penn · 23-05-2025 12:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477575#Comment_123477575

Manufacturing iPhones completely in the US (given that so many of the materials to do so will still be tariffed as they come from other countries, and that Apple doesn't currently have the infrastructure and facilities to build those iPhones) would likely cost more than the 25% blanket tariff Trump could put on them.

Dumbass man makes dumbass decision that dumbasses will think is great.

ancapailldorcha · 23-05-2025 12:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477665#Comment_123477665

My employer is a higher education institution with a pension several hundred million in debt!

"Invest", they said. "Grow your money", they said. "It'll serve you well in future", they said.

kneemos · 23-05-2025 01:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477693#Comment_123477693

And double the price of an iPhone no doubt.

How can he pick on individual companies like that?

Will_I_Amnt · 23-05-2025 01:07PM

What does he mean when he says "I am recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union, starting on June 1, 2025" - I don't think he has announced tariffs before by saying he is "recommending" tariffs. So, is it supposed to be some sort of bluff with the intention of scaring the EU into concessions?

Like how it worked really well with China!

ancapailldorcha · 23-05-2025 01:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477749#Comment_123477749

Because he can. He's captured the entire executive branch, the most important part of the judiciary and enough of the legislature that nothing short of an uprising can stop him.

Will_I_Amnt · 23-05-2025 01:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477749#Comment_123477749

Well Harvard are suing him - New lawsit from former friend Tim Cook incoming also - guaranteed.

J Mysterio · 23-05-2025 01:22PM

We can't go on like this.

The EU need to sanction the US at this stage.

Trump is an unhinged despot.

EltonJohn69 · 23-05-2025 01:34PM

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Tim Apple don’t play.

poop emoji · 23-05-2025 01:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477830#Comment_123477830

The markets are doing just that

Especially the bond one

The problem with Trump Communism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2025 01:48PM

A 50% tariff is no different to 150%. It basically ends trade. It seems to include pharma too this time.

Devastating for Ireland is a vast understatement. The EU will have to give a lot more to avoid an economic emergency here similar to 2008.

Unfortunately from what I know so far of the discussions the EU has been putting forward proposals on tariffs and other barriers as if it is an equal of the United States. It is not and won't get away with pretending it is.

Larbre34 · 23-05-2025 01:49PM

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No.

They need to be absolutely delighted that they getting under his skin, and absolutely not rolling over for one of his conman deals like the UK had to take.

They need to be wrapping up comprehensive deals with Canada and Mexico and India and anyone else who's willing to be serious about such things.

They need to be having grand summits with ASEAN and MERCOSUR and the African Union, and basically getting on with growing trade and cooperation with everyone else on the planet who will engage fairly.

They need to be selling the European defence industry around the globe and facilitating a massive growth in that space, so we can begin to fully divest from American armaments.

They need to be piling on more and more pressure on Putin and more and more pressure on Netanyahu, independent of America's naive and untrustworthy policies.

Let Trump levy 50%. The Republicans will soon be hearing it in their Golf Clubs and at Church on Sundays when their constituents are seeing the sticker prices on Mercedes and Porsches and on fine French wine and Belgian chocolate going through the roof, not to mention the high-end industrial machinery, technology and chemicals that come from Europe to make American factories and farms work properly.

The EU is more economically powerful than the US, and its time to flex that muscle unashamedly.

Ash.J.Williams · 23-05-2025 01:50PM

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We absolutely should suck it up and not humour that absolute orange tool

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2025 01:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477967#Comment_123477967

If you want mass unemployment and collapse in tax revenue within months then, yeah, suck it up.

yagan · 23-05-2025 01:57PM

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Wouldn't it be truer to say with Trump Communism your currency ends up worthless?

I remember reading about the Argentinian devaluation back in 2000 and how people ended up storing wealth with simple gold rings as a substitute in some big transactions. Easy to stash on the person, accepted everywhere and a hedge from devaluation.

Podge_irl · 23-05-2025 02:03PM

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This is just advocating cowardice as policy. It's pathetic.

It also, fundamentally, doesn't work. No matter what you do to appease him, he will just bring tariffs back in a fit of pique later on as he has conclusively proven. In contrast he seems to back down quickly and embarrassingly in the face of strength.

You act as if this isn't something that will hurt the US every bit as much, if not more in many cases (pharma being the obvious one)

poop emoji · 23-05-2025 02:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477992#Comment_123477992

He does have a track record of bankrupting entities that one would assume are impossible to bankrupt

ancapailldorcha · 23-05-2025 02:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477967#Comment_123477967

Appeasement didn't work in 1938 and it won't work now. Trump sees his own supporters as nothing but rubes and marks. It's fair to say that he hates Europeans even more.

odyssey06 · 23-05-2025 02:08PM

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What's the problem? Weren't you only recently on this thread lauding the plain talking coming from the White House?

No matter what economically illiterate vomit Trump comes out with, note how you don't criticise Trump but desperately try to spin it against Ireland and driving a wedge between Ireland and the EU.

Not fooling anyone with this anti-EU agenda in the posts and hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil when it comes to Trump.

Penn · 23-05-2025 02:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123478004#Comment_123478004

Not to mention the very simple fact that it is US citizens who pay the tariffs. The more the EU and others stick their heels in and let Trump raise the tariffs to whatever he wants, it will affect the US population far more than anyone else, because while all countries have tariffs raised on US goods, the US has tariffs raised on everything from every other country.

Short term, the EU and others can increase trade with each other to try best offset the effect of tariffs as much as possible, but the US won't have that option because they're imposing tariffs against everybody.

So yes, there could be a lot of upheaval in the short term. But a) it'll hurt the US far more and could force a lot of pressure on Trump to roll back, and b) the EU et al don't have to outlast a decade of economic uncertainty like from 2008. They just have to outlast Trump.

Dig the f*ck in and tell the orange c*nt to f*ck the f*ck off. Whatever you give him, he'll change his mind a month later and want more. F*ck off.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2025 02:19PM

We need to focus on impacts for Ireland. The most immediately casualty from June 1st if 50% tariff is implemented will be obviously the food and drink sector. There will be 1000s of job losses within two weeks.

The government will need to decide whether it wants to use tax payers money to protect as many of those workers as it can.

The fallout beyond that would be catastrophic but we'll need to take it one step at a time.

Our only hope is the EU comes to it's senses quickly.

poop emoji · 23-05-2025 02:21PM

What impacts? He do a uturn like he has every single time while his cohorts game the markets on insider info

Trump Always Chickens Out

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Quin_Dub · 23-05-2025 02:21PM

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How is it "devastating to Ireland" , will it be like the existential hell we'll experience from Brexit that's definitely going to happen any day now , just before the EU cut us loose and punish us..

We're not the ones paying the tariffs , US Citizens are.

Excluding Pharma , most of our exports are "Services" which Trump doesn't seem to know exists so they are not subject to his incoherent nonsense

Pharma is probably the most Tariff resistant industry there is - You can decide you don't need a new iPhone , you can't decide to not need Insulin anymore..

I said this before - The Pharma companies won't give a toss - They still get paid.

They'll throw a few million at "planning" for new Production facilities ( which would take 3-5 years at the least to bring on line) to keep Trump out of their face , but they won't change a damn thing - They might use it as leverage to get the EU to give them a better tax deal or improved pricing but they absolutely categorically won't be shuttering their factories and moving back to the US .

As for the other industries - Again , they'll feel a bit of a hit but they still get paid and they'll do the same thing - Make coochy-coo noises to the man-baby and spend a few million on purchasing some sites and a bit of planning fees , but again there will be no significant return of manufacturing to the US.

Also - Trump WILL change his mind again so anyone making plans or decisions based on his latest bout of verbal diarrhea would be a very silly person.

Smile and Nod , say "Sure Donald , we'll get right on it" and just wait for him to flip flop a few more times before eventually rolling over and giving in as he has done EVERY other time.

johnny_ultimate · 23-05-2025 02:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123478059#Comment_123478059

'The EU comes to its senses'?

There's only one nutcase trade policy here, and it ain't the European union.

ancapailldorcha · 23-05-2025 02:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123478059#Comment_123478059

What do you get out of constantly peddling this kind of silly nonsense? Genuine question. You spent years trying to convince us that the EU was going to kick Ireland out and now this.

The Americans will be paying the tariffs, just like they volunteer themselves to be guinea pigs for medicines.

Quin_Dub · 23-05-2025 02:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123477987#Comment_123477987

Do you think you'll ever get tired of being so wrong, so often??

You've been telling us that the Irish Economy is about to be utterly F*cked any day now for well over a decade at this stage.

The UK were going to punish us for Brexit , then the EU were going to punish for for Brexit as well apparently.

Now the US are going to punish us but you've also stuck with the angle that the EU were going to punish us for it as well somehow…

You're seemingly endless ability to be utterly wrong is sort of impressive to be honest.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning added to OP 10/1/26

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