Cork GAA Discussion Thread

This is the worst thing that can happen to cork...meet your nemesis again soon after a mauling and again in their back yard!!. They be better to meet them at a later stage and have a few games to reassess and get up confidence again ..cork have not the luxury of a third spot and coming again for a later assault...if it was only a few points in the difference and a great game..well then cork be relishing it .but it's now like the weakling in the school play ground meeting the big bully boy for more pasting. And more demoralising..tipperary are in a better situation. And gaining confidence as well.as hurling all around them..

Ye have to bite the bullet and drop Horgan. great servant, but ye needed a sweeper against Limerick and ye cant afford an older player at full forward if you have a two man full forward line. It was the same against Clare last year. Horgan, and you have to love his hurling, is a tactical limitation now. Ye need a bit of madness in the team. Clare got close to Limerick a few times by limiting their triangles. We had them beating in Ennis last year but gave it away, in the Munster final we were beaten well by them but didn't play well on the day. Corks hammering says there is something fundamentally wrong with the team setup and mentality. Not covering runners etc. is part of that.

Everywhere on social media you have Limerick fans gloating that they gave Cork such a hammering and put us back in our box. It's everywhere and saying that Cork thought they just had to show up. Most in Cork were nervous of this game, we know how good Limerick are and it was unbelievable to beat them twice last year. There was a day when Limerick briefly got outside Munster to compete in the All Ireland series and we here in Cork would support them all the way. Since they scraped over the line in 2018 and became a successful outfit they have now become a unbearable bunch. The new Man City of hurling. Keep at it because when your at the top the fall is just as severe. All good things come to end and Cork folk won't forget it the day that they beat Limerick. It will happen in time. Everything goes in cycles. Enjoy being at the top for as long as it lasts.

It was the 2021 all Ireland final all over again! Last year and narrowly losing to them in 2023 convinced me that we could go toe to toe with Limerick on a regular basis. That theory has now flown out the window. Pat Ryan generally has his Corks teams playing with great spirit and passion, but yes tactical or lack of tactical acumen and making the correct changes while the match is on is an issue.

ah boys we had a post half of which was about little fouls yee didn’t get, Jesus the first limerick goal was like the defending of an u12 camoige team. Man up .

I don’t get the drop hoggie talk he was better than both beside him in the full forward line and scored more and could have scored two goals. His frees were off but he performed better than both I thought.

Rob Downey was clearly not fit and should not have started against Limerick.

Bad call by Pat Ryan and his selectors.

Drop Hoggie allows you to play a sweeper. Horgan cannot play in the half forward line and cannot be effective in a two man full forward line. His frees are his mainstay. Brilliant hurler but now his presence locks in Cork and other teams know what you can't do. As a Clareman, at the all Ireland final last year, he had some great moments but in reality he had more or less stick to the corner and Leen had studied his movements. Cork are now too predictable . Time to be radical.

If what we hear is true about injured players starting that's a serious going forward because that tells us our bench is limited, there is no way Cork can win Liam if we have not strength in depth. Look at Limerick at the subs the brought on most if not all would start in other Counties teams. That's the bench mark that other teams must aspire to. Another worrying aspect from last Sunday was none of our marquee players really stood out which leads me to conclude we have a bunch of talented players but not ones who can take a game by the scruff of the neck and change it. TK and SoD, TJ Reid ,Jason Forde and finally most of Limerick those Players are elite until some of our boys do it on a regular basis we will struggle to win Liam.

Last Sunday was a bad day at the office but this same bunch of players beat Limerick twice in the Championship last year, and i would argue that we were robbed of a draw in the all Ireland final right at the end.

Of course the fear is that a defeat like that could damage the players psychologically, but beat Waterford this Sunday and the show is back on the road again. There's no point discussing what would could happen in a Munster final against Limerick until Waterford are taken care of.

The Hurlng team is going to be announced tonight.

Who is fully fit? I think Coleman will and should be dropped for Cormac O'Brien. Harnedy to start for Dalton if he has not recovered. Niall O'Leary probably not recovered so maybe Mellerick comes in. Maybe Cahalane for Downey if he is not fully fit. Ryan seemed to suggest in an interview that Downey would be ok though now. I'm wondering does he change anything in the forwards. I have a feeling that maybe just Healy comes in as Ryan seems to be fairly faithful to his regular starters. It seems the way he thinks but maybe there will be wholesale changes after I say that! Whoever starts, I' m expecting way more energy and workrate from the start. Against Limerick we were even lazy taking sidelines like we didn't know what the plan was at all.

The Minor football team to play Kerry tomorrow live on TG4 has been announced. I'm hoping for a better performance from them too! At one stage in the first half of that previous game against Kerry, I thought we were very good but missed numerous chances to pull ahead. Then we just fell away in the second half. So there were glimpses but we need to see a full match from them.

The more I think about Corks game last Sunday the more I think Cork were letting Limerick show their hand. Yes Cork should have been alot better but look at the psychology of the players they were disinterested. I think Cork are looking down the road I would imagine. I think we will beat Waterford Sunday by 4-5 points and if not we have no business in championship. Are we good enough to beat Limerick if we get past Waterford time will tell?

My Dad used to say this all the time and I would argue with him about it! He was adamant that teams don't bother in certain games to see how the other team operates. I would disagree and he would call me naive! He was from Kilkenny and he would say that they were too smart and Cork needed to do this. He would say why kill yourself if you think you will be playing them again. Now this was about the hurling league as the Championship was knockout then but I know if he was still alive he would be saying it now to me! 😅

Though he also had other conspiracy theories like a Munster ref would screw Kilkenny out of winnng all the time 😅

Any tickets going for the match, none on ticketmaster or supervalue. Ideally looking for 2 stand together (1 adult , 1 child)

Two games with Waterford that stand out for we was that 1999 Munster semi final. That was the day we fielded six championship debutants. The loser was out and the winner was guaranteed an all Ireland quarter final appearance at the very least. We put in a great performance on the day and Mickey O'Connell played a stormer. He outplayed no less and great a man than Tony Browne but i don't think Mickey ever quite reached those same heights again for Cork.

The 2003 Munster Final was another great game it was just nice to win a trophy after the trouble the previous winter. That 2017 all Ireland semi final wasn't such a great day though! We were winning by a point with about twenty minutes to go, but then one of our players lost the head and got himself sent off. We were still in the game with about thirteen minutes (we were two points ahead i think) left but then they went on the rampage!

Then there was that drawn all Ireland quarter final in 2007. To this very day i still don't know what Brian Gavin gave that free to Waterford right at the end for! Hopefully this Sunday might be the day we'll look back on as the day we turned our year around and got the show back on the road again.👍️

Sure we’ll head down for the puck around anyway. Whatever little bit of hope we had is gone now since Dalo repeated on the podcast about five times that you’ll bate us without getting out of second gear.