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Advice, should I send my child to primary school?

  • 01-05-2025 09:13PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40


    Just looking for people's opinions on whether to send child to primary school or keep him an extra year.

    He is 4 going on 5 in November, for the past couple of months he has had so much anxiety about starting big school as crèche has been preparing them. He had a major meltdown the other day because he thought I was bringing him to big school when we had only showed up at a playground. . Major panic in the car ended up going home and not going to the park. He has a little speech problem where it's a little bit hard to understand what he is saying sometimes (just certain words nothing majorly bad) and he gets frustrated ..he's being referred for speech therapy.

    Should I keep him home the extra year meaning he would be 5 going on 6 or is that too old?

    I really don't know what to do. Any advice greatly appreciated.

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭jasonb


    I wouldn't think being five when he starts school (and turning six 2-3 months later) is too old at all! Personally I think it's better to have them a little more mature, especially if you think he might struggle a little bit with it. We had the same choice with my own daughter, and someone asked me this question… "Do you want her to be 15 in a class of 16 year olds, or 16 in a class of 15 year olds", and I thought that was a good way to think about it. We decided to do the second year of pre-school and I think it really helped her be a little more mature, and a little more confident.

    When it comes down to it, trust your gut, do what you think is right for your son, and while it might seem like a big thing now, it really will be fine and will soon a distant memory as he thrives in school! :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,630 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    There's no harm in keeping him another year. Boys mature a little slower than girls so the extra year will make school a lot easier.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Primary teacher here with more than 30 years of experience. Trust your gut, you know your child best. Giving him the extra time should stand to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Bite the bullet and send him.

    If he’s developmentally ready then another year of playschool isn’t a great idea, he’ll be bored. The early days of junior infants aren’t that dissimilar to playschool anyway.

    You’re also assuming that the extra year will solve the issue, but you may just be kicking the can down the road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Mine are the eldest in their class, they started at 5.5. There's kids a full year younger than them.

    I think starting at 6 turning 7 is too old, there will be 4 year olds in the class with them.

    I would contact the school and try to get your child in the same class as their bestie from creche…it will help with the transition. Also no harm meeting with the school to discuss your fears and childs anxiety...they usually have a lil welcome day around June to meet the teacher etc and if the school is aware of anxiety issues they can take extra measures.

    This is a wobble now...I think long term their age finishing school should also be a consideration.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Whehey!


    No he would be 5 going on 6 if I was to leave him the year..

    Yeah there is an induction day in may for an hour, but academically I think he would be ok but emotionally I'm not sure if he's there yet.

    I will be chatting with the school and explaining to them how I feel about it but at the moment my gut is saying to keep him another year.

    thanks for the reply x



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,363 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I agree with this. Give him the extra time.

    Also sorting the speech problem will make a big difference to him. It will be a big boost to his confidence too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    As another poster said …you know your child best 🙂 Consider the long game.

    My 2 cents…

    If developmentally, you feel he’s ‘not ready’ & you’re in a (fortunate) position to hold off on sending him to school. In that scenario I’d do just that. Here’s why…

    Early years development doesnt directly match those of similar age, though tends to level out over time…generally entering teens. If it really seems he’s not ready yet, hold off if you see potential value in it.

    You’re the child’s primary educator. In a class of say 25+ a child's going to get less attention. Parents are the optimum source of support during developmental years (whether inside/outside of school). If you/family have the time to spend with your child during formative years, it’s well invested and pays off in future years. Couple that with other social settings (like xtra year in pre school).

    Early primary education gave more emphasis to play in the past. Less so today. Consider that there are developmental advantages to that scenario be it in a home & playschool setting. The more opportunity for play in the early years the better. Advs to having an age advantage amongst peers in school:

    1. Better Focus and Learning: Older kids brans have matured more, - helps them concentrate, understand instructions, and learn new skills more easily.

    2. More Confidence: Being slightly ahead can make a child feel more capable- boosts confidence and makes school a more positive experience.

    3. Stronger Social Skills: They may be more emotionally ready for school life—like sharing, cooperating, and handling frustration—making friendships and classroom behaviour easier.

    4. Physical Readiness: Older children often have better coordination for handwriting, sports, and other physical activities.

    5. More Opportunities: Teachers may see them “advanced” and offer extra support or enrichment, which builds even more confidence and skills over time. A subconscious bias plays its part here.

    Bottom line:

    Being older in the class can give kids a helpful boost early on—especially in confidence, attention, and learning. Over time, that early lead can grow into real long-term advantages.

    Some of these ideas I read in a book by Malcolm Gladwell which was an eye opener for me at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,462 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    Sorry I misread it.

    Yeah leave them another year if you aren't happy.

    I do think they do better the older they are. 5 going on 6 is grand for junior infants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,400 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    is there a possibility of autism here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 976 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    You'll be surprised what the summer will do to maturity. Added to that knowing his friends will be with him in class in junior infants.

    In my kids school , the older classes spend a lot of time with the juniors in the yard helping them adjust.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭AnnieinDundrum


    have you talked to the school? See if they have an idea of what numbers are like and ages in the group.
    in my sons class there was an age span of 18 months. 24 kids and only 3 of them were at the lower end of the age span. 1 of the younger ones really struggled and left after second class to repeat the year in another school.

    And also check that they can still have a place for him next year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭jonnybravo


    Just as another perspective if he plays team sports if you leave him another year then he would be playing with none of his friends (they'd all be the year ahead). I know it's a smaller issue but team sports are great for kids and playing with your friends is an important part of this.

    If he is okay going to creche I would say he would adjust quickly to primary school. He won't be the only child finding it hard at the start.

    If it is an option private Speech and Language therapy might help him a lot. Public system takes a long time.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Repeating a class for age reasons is not approved by the Dept, so I'd caution on having that as a back-up. It can also do a lot of damage to a child's self esteem and there's no research to back up " benefits" of repeating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    My son is the youngest in his class by 2 months. However he was fully ready to go & was excited about school. There would be nothing odd about a child turning 6 shortly after starting so if you feel he needs the extra year, then give it to him. You can use that time to work towards getting him ready for the idea, maybe see if you can bring him to the school for an open day or summer fair or something so he gets used to the idea of the place & can see it without it being stressful.

    I always use the example of my niece & my friend's daughter. They are 2 days apart in age. My niece was more than ready to start school at 4, outgoing, smart & no fear on her. My friend's daughter needed the extra year. Both are thriving now in their respective schools. It really comes down to the child themselves.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    we sent our oldest a year later than “normal” under advice from his Playschool they felt he wasn’t ready.

    What ended up happening was he could not start school in junior infants and had to immediately start in senior infants because you need to be finished school (primary) by the year you turn 13 it was explained to us.

    That’s a rule across the board not just the school he goes to. I would definitely make sure to check with school. Give DOB and ask them to confirm your child can go to school next September in junior infants.

    Really though OP they’ll never not be nervous and anxious about it. It’s a big change for them and a lot to take in. But I know from our lad missing junior infants was a big deal and it really made it hard for him much more than I think he would’ve found starting on time.

    If it helps you at all, we regret every single day that we listened to the Playschool and kept him back because of what happened. Second child started school at 5 (turned 5 in the April of the year he started) and he’s the head of life since but was extricatingly nervous starting. I mean to tell you about anxiety he had would take me a week.

    For his first I want to say 3 months in school he did not say much and was very quiet. Hated going. Now he loves it (he’s in senior infants now moving to 1st class in sept). There’s never going to be a right time to start but you need to bite the bullet.

    It will affect them in future also and potentially make them self conscious if they’re the oldest one in class always. Especially if you’re starting junior infants the year you turn six- which as I said just make sure you can do that.

    The Playschool will usually be preparing the kids in second year of PS for transitioning to primary anyway. That would’ve started a while back I’d expect.

    Best of luck anyway OP whatever you decide- prob no harm to speak to your public health nurse or GP they might have some resources and ideas to help settle his anxiety. I’ll leave it here but just one thing I’d say- don’t spend the kids life running away from stressful situations with them. Sometimes in life you need to grab the bull by the horns as they say- big school, moving to secondary and then on to college are all big milestones in their educational life that will be met with severe anxiety when they approach. You can’t delay everything forever because you’re anxious.

    I know how hard it is when they’re only a wee baby really and they’re so upset and worried etc it breaks your heart but I promise you OP it will all work out for the best. Trust me- I’ve been there!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Fishdoodle


    Good points here. On the balance of things and taking age into account (thought he’d be younger in earlier post), Id be inclined to start with Junior infants in Sept. Age range will be average in the class.

    Many primary schools have a prep day for the preschoolers which allays anxiety where they have fun and play with peers. A lot of development can happen between now and sept. Talk about change (eg. pre school preparing them…that’s scary, as to a child is a voyage from the known to the unknown). It is not easy to leave a familiar environment, and tears beginning ‘big school’ is not unusual. They’ll settle in quick enough though and will have pals and hopefully a really nice teacher 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    that just leads to an "arms race" though - all of the parents of the other kids apply the same thinking, and then your kid will be the 16 year old in the class of 17 year olds… and they won't have done their Junior Cert yet (joking - I think)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    Yep - we asked about this as a "just in case" & were told by the school that it isn't done anymore at all & that additional supports would be put in if a child was struggling.

    I'm not sure why the school put it like that to you as that's incorrect. The only rule is that a child must not have turned 6 by the time they start primary school (although they can turn 6 a couple of days later) & they must have reached aged 12 by 1 January in the year they are to start in secondary. I can't find a single source online (including gov.ie) that mentions the age of 13 at all. The only issue would be if your child was already 6 when starting school but that isn't allowed either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,998 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    people always say you might regret sending them too young but you wont regret keeping them back year, with that said he is probably at the age where he should be starting, given they all do transition year nowadays he would be 19 starting university, if you keep him a year he would be 20 which seems old to me.



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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    Maybe I’ve explained it wrong but I can assure you the school is correct.

    We substantiated it with other schools in the area and a Montessori out second lad went to (they recommended an extra year so we were immediately worried)

    I think he had turned 6 before school started that year though yeah. Obviously it’s allowed? Why wouldn’t it be! He was in pre school for the year he otherwise would have been in Junior infants. So had to skip straight ahead to senior.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,895 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    5 going on 6 is not too old. In my opinion its rather better when it comes to entering secondary and doing the Leaving Cert, because your young fella will still only be 12 and 18 respectively.

    And that bit of maturity makes a huge difference, especially when it comes to boys, at all ages of development.

    For your particular situation, I have sympathy. I don't think the crèche should be doing really anything at all about big school, because it makes it into too much of a 'thing'.

    In my opinion, the worst thing you can do to a small person, is to build something up for months and weeks on end. Anything, whether its holidays, or Christmas, or a hospital visit, or a change of school.

    Kids are very resilient, but they do ruminate, without the emotional maturity perhaps to process something completely, and that generates anxiety, stress, anger, sometimes disbelief with being left waiting. And a week to you feels like 3 months to them.

    My approach was always to treat every big change somewhat like a bereavement with them. Not in a literal sense of a shocking and sad event, but in something thats happening, its happening quickly, it has come somewhat out of the blue, but we are going to deal with it and deal with it together and its not a big deal.

    It is in those sort of adjustments that kids will surprise you. They can actually deal with change and new realities better than adults, in many ways, so long as their lodestars remain in place; their safe home, their love from you, their activities that they enjoy, their pets, visits to Granny and Grandad etc.

    What you need to decide, is if your fella will be best served doing another year in pre-school to mature, while all his pal's move on to a different place without him, or whether you can successfully spend the summer gently depowering the daunting idea of 'big school' and getting together for shopping trips with his pals, maybe even classroom visits and teacher meets together, as matter-of-factly as possible, to emphasise that this will be a fun adventure, not an intolerable burden, or some sort of punishment.

    So what it comes down to for you is, will the years maturity make enough of a difference to counteract the loss of classroom pals, or might you be back here in 12 months time anyway, with just the same sort of anxieties arising, but having no choice but to put him into infants in the September.

    Hope it all goes ok. He's tougher than you think!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I think the school told you a bit of fib there. I know of kids starting secondary at age 14.

    I have never heard of a child moving straight into senior infants - that's really really odd of the school.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    They certainly did not- unless they managed to get all the schools in the area to go with the “fib”..

    sorry, but they were 100% correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,093 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    5 going on 6 is not too old. In my opinion its rather better when it comes to entering secondary and doing the Leaving Cert, because your young fella will still only be 12 and 18 respectively.

    Turning 6 in the autumn after starting Junior Infants means (with TY) turning 19 the year before the Leaving Cert! Almost 20 entering college.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Deeec


    I don't think it's any bad thing starting college older. The older the better imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Fair enough but it sounds an odd situation. A child would miss out on a alot by not doing junior infants - I would be very annoyed with that. Did you not consult the primary school when he was 5 and the playschool advised to hold him back a year? A playschool should have known he should have been starting school - I take it you had to pay for him for that year as he wouldn't have qualified for ecce.

    Kids should start school in the sept after they turn 5. Age 4 is too young imo but age 5 is usually perfect.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    not really willing to go more in details as it would be unfair to the child concerned for me to discuss their personal background online, with strangers, I hope you understand.

    Was it about me personally I’d happily divulge more information but as it stands I’ve honestly said more than I am comfortable with- I only mentioned my experience as I would not like the OP to deal with the same… issues.. we did on the back of it all.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Raichų


    you are right though- starting immediately in senior infants was detrimental to them and that’s exactly why I’d err on the side of caution - and frankly - I’d want it in writing from your school of choice it wouldn’t be an issue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭GHendrix


    I’m in a similar position OP. My son is 5 in October and due to start school. He’s very intelligent but suffers quite a bit with anxiety, confidence, big emotions etc. I feel sorry for kids at this age that grew up in lockdowns.

    I’m currently sending him to a play therapist to try help him work through some issues so hopefully he’ll be feeling the benefits of that come September.

    But I will personally power through and send him in September. My reasons are mainly that there might never be a right time anyways. He could still be anxious next year. And he’d likely have outgrown most of the pre schoolers so staying back wouldn’t benefit him in that regard.



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