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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,898 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Isn't that pretty much exactly what you said to me in the Garda thread when I raised the question of RTE coverage of the Garda rostering isssue?
    I've been banned for two months… <mod snip>

    Post edited by Shield on


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Mod note: You don’t get to be banned in one forum only to go to another forum and pick up where you left off. It doesn’t work like that, and you know it.

    Do not post on this discussion again.

    -Shield



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I reckon people should be able to post bans from CA/IMHO they wish to appeal in the Dispute Resolution forum, so there's a record when it comes to the 6th warning, or whatever, when they can appeal.

    Post edited by Quantum Erasure on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It's quiet because the owner no longer gives a f*ck and can't wait to get this albatross off his neck. I just wish someone else would buy it already*†

    *Be careful what you wish for, etc.

    †The dream is it gets bought by a conglomerate of boardsies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,804 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Relevant to the earlier discussion on defamation.

    Plumber awarded 40k award over Trust Pilot review:

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    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2025/05/17/damages-award-to-dublin-firm-over-online-review-should-make-people-think-twice-before-venting-online-says-internet-law-expert/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,895 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Who would want it? It has a dwindling userbase and Vanilla has not worked out to most people's satisfaction.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭Raichų


    eh I wouldn’t get too excited over that, I mean the defendant did not even appear.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    Not 100% certain, but I think posts like that on boards get removed and posters get sitebanned. From my experience and based on reported posts only, these are very often new accounts that register just to post negative reviews.

    I'm conscious that such post may occur in various forums of the site. I'd imagine that this is a great example of mods/admins really relying on reporting of posts, as in quieter forums mods may be online less frequently.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,216 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Both of those things are true, but it would still be an enormous shame if boards is just allowed to go to the wall or dwindle into total irrelevance, due to apathy.

    I have no idea what the numbers of regular posters is at this point. Maybe a few hundred? The cast of characters is certainly decreasing.

    But if boards is allowed to go kaputt that would be a big loss IMO. Aside from everything else, boards is a unique record of the social history of Internet era Ireland - it's unique, there's no real direct equivalent of it as a repository in that sense.

    And also, as increasingly quaint and dated, as message boards are, there's still a value in them, IMO, that you don't see replicated on twitter, reddit etc, etc. When it's gone it'll be missed.

    I remember back in the day that you could pay a subscription fee to boards for certain benefits and the like.

    Now, this is real blue-sky thinking, but I'd happily pay a nominal fee every month if it meant the site could be maintained and treated with a certain degree of care.

    I think there's a lot of goodwill towards the site from a lot of long tenured posters who'd be happy enough to contribute in some small way to ensuring that the place keeps going. Right now the state of the site is sad to see.

    And also, there's so many people with technical knowledge here who could at least contribute to attempting to fix some of the bugs. The offers have been made.

    I know that's all very optimistic and unlikely to happen. And I could foresee the problems with posters who pay to keep the site running, then falling into disputes with moderation etc.

    But I'd love to know what the actual running costs of the site are and whether any businesses arrangements are in existence that preclude any of these things ever occurring.

    As it stands boards probably won't exist in the medium term.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep would require a massive redesign and migration. There's realistically no commercial value in the platform so I sort of feel the site will just disappear some day.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Update: After some discussion and feedback it has been agreed to amend the Current Affairs/IMHO forum warning system to the following:

    The warnings scale-

    1. 1st warning = 1 day ban
    2. 2nd warning = 3 day ban
    3. 3rd warning = 1 week ban
    4. 4th warning = 2 week ban
    5. 5th warning = 3 week ban
    6. 6th warning = 1 month ban (can be appealed)
    7. 7th warning = 3 month ban (can be appealed)
    8. 8th warning = 6 month ban (can be appealed)
    9. 9th warning = Permanent ban (can be appealed)

    As a gesture of good will anyone with bans expiring this month will have theirs lifted sometime today. Anyone currently serving anything lengthier than a one month ban can appeal via the Dispute Resolution Forum. Hopefully this will be considered a fair compromise to the current situation. Thanks for engaging folks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,607 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    I think that's a good change, an appeal once a poster hits a month is definitely better.

    Can you confirm @Necro if warnings are being carried on or is it starting again from scratch? and will it be just the 6th warning that can be appealed or will it include any earlier warnings?



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Warnings are being carried on. I've no idea what the C-Mods or admins will allow into DRP as it's not my remit.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,895 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think it's best to just start afresh if we're changing the rules. Anything issues under the old rules won't be eligible under the new ones. Speaking just for myself here.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,198 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    To cut down on mod time I think the warning scale needs to be looked at.

    6 warnings to only get a 6 month ban seems light. If you dont get the hint after 2 or 3 what is going to change the posting style?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,607 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Because no appeals leaves the warning system open to abuse or mistakes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,804 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    To me it depends how quickly they are racked up.

    The warnings dont expire.

    2-3 warnings in a short space of time should be treated differently to 2-3 warnings over a long time.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    They are, odyssey.

    A poster that is worth warning only once every 2-3 months, is most likely to be stuck on 0 point warnings for a very long time. Ignoring these 0 points and/or repeating the same behaviour over and over will get very little or no leniency later on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,016 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Sorry Irish Aris not the case for many .

    There have been quite a few people including myself who did not get 0 pointers, or only one , before the quick 1 st and 2nd warnings were applied and while those were questioned by pm to the mod , but we're told no appeals , so we are stuck with that .

    Where do we stand now ?

    I think any warning should have the visibility of at least being stated on DRP so that if a person is racking up warnings because some mods differ in their application of the rules that that anomaly becomes clear to all.

    I appreciate these new changes , longer term of warnings and earlier ability to appeal . But the fairness of the system where many posters lost the right to post or appeal or even make their case is not resolved by this change .



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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,660 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Your last warning was a 3 day ban @Goldengirl, your next warning will carry with it a 1 week ban and will not be appealable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,016 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    How does that address my post ?

    Or are you replying to the first half of my post ? Then ok.

    But what about future visibility or even past as regards some of these warnings ?



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,660 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Are you threatening me?

    What?!

    You asked a question

    Where do we stand now ?

    I answered it.

    Moderators can see all previous warnings on your profile. You cannot appeal anything up to 1 month. The moderator may or may not look at your previous warnings in CA and take them into account for your DRP. But you cannot appeal anything up to 1 month. C- Moderators will not overturn previous warnings up to 1 month.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,578 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Because that's what most posters seem to want to be honest.

    I agree with you, someone racking up 3-4 warnings in a short space of time clearly isn't going to get the message but c'est la vie. And, in fairness if someone hits the six month ban stage they'll already have served circa 26 weeks (back of napkin calculations so feel free to correct me) in bans cumulatively so it isn't like they have free reign before hitting that stage.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,660 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    The moderators can, as always, use their discretion. If someone is a problem in the forum and becoming a timesink then all the steps of various ban lengths are not necessary. The forum moderators can, at their discretion, permanently forum ban anyone they feel is adding nothing of value to the forum.

    The poster can appeal in DRP.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Mod post: Some off-topic posts deleted. Feel free to talk about site traffic, but not about moderation. Open a new discussion if you wish, but keep things on-topic.

    Thanks.

    -Shield



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    @Boards.ie: Odhran is the sole owner of Boards. This is publicly available information.

    -Shield



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,607 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    not being smart now Shield, but isnt the whole thread discussing moderation, and rules etc?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,844 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    I don’t believe you’re trying to be smart, but I’ll direct you to the OP which doesn’t mention moderation. Like I said above, feel free to mention forum/site moderation in a new discussion if you wish.

    Now please don’t reply to moderator posts again. My PMs are also open as well, but play fair here, you know you’re not supposed to reply to posts which are clearly marked as such. Send a PM to me, yes. Start a new thread in Feedback, yes. We discuss these things in our Moderator forum where things can get quite lively at times. BUT… don’t reply to mod posts.

    Now PLEASE can we get back on-topic?

    -Shield



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,951 ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Maybe it would be an idea to call them points again instead of warnings, if every actionable post in a thread is going to be actioned separately and cumulatively some time afterwards?

    It's not really a "warning" system then imo

    Post edited by riffmongous on


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