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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Dalton was carrying a knock before the game - I heard early today he wasn’t supposed to be playing and was shocked to see him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭Seadin


    It's just we knew Limerick would be up for this game and it's up to management to make sure Cork were up for it. I wouldn't mind losing in the manner like 2023 when we died with our boots on but today we were pathetic all over the field let's call a spade a spade here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    That's a shame if true. He seemed to Pat Ryan's natural heir apparent for the job.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I'm just hoping that was our one really bad performance of the championship out of the way!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,725 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Same as you I'm disappinted.

    I hope he re thinks it. Would not totally rule it out but I think he has beef with few in county board too which is another negative.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Frank may be gone but the old divide is still there it seems sadly.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Oh and the likes of Ben Cunnigham and Michael Mullins should've got more game time with Cork by now. We also shouldn't be starting players if they aren't match fit. Hoggie had on off day as well but the great man is almost 40 years old now. We can't keep relying on him to bail us out of trouble. While Waterford are no Limerick that sort of performance today just won't cut the mustard next week at all.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,130 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Incredibly defeatist post. You don’t send out what very nearly is your best 15 in that heat today to get annihilated with a fúcking eye on the Waterford match.

    Sport just doesn’t work that way. Any life/momentum has been completely sucked out of the team and their followers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I wouldn't think so there's a chance to put it right against Waterford, and the main thing is to just be in the top three when the game of musical chairs stops. As long as the mentality is right then Cork should beat Waterford, but if we do qualify from the group and are celebrating an all Ireland win in July then today will have been long forgotten about.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 35,096 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    There was so much negativity after the Clare game, I felt it was a good draw and would stand to us.

    Today was bad but it could well stand to us too.

    If we can't beat Waterford at home we don't deserve to be in the top 3. However, I think we will comfortably beat them.

    Alot went wrong for Cork today. Dalton early injury, centre back not fit and should not have started, away to a very hungry Limerick team who were looking for revenge and had to win, the 3 week break was too long between games etc.

    That said, we were as poor as poor could be. I doubt that will happen again. Hopefully that's our bad game out of the way.

    One of Limerick and Cork I believe will lift Liam. Limerick were at their best today while Cork were at their worst.

    I doubt that will happen if and when we meet again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    That was our first really bad championship defeat under Pat Ryan generally his Cork teams play with a lot of fire and spirit. I still think tactics are an issue, and that the management team lacks a Paul Kinnerk type of figure in the background. Pat took us to within a whisker of an all Ireland win last year, but if it wasn't for Waterford fluffing their lines against Tipp then we most likely wouldn't have even got out of Munster.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,463 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    We beat them last year in Munster and topped it off in the Semi. I can't see how we've moved forward today from that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Sport is all about hunger, who wants it more!!

    Limericks hurt from last year ran very deep!! Maybe more so than Cork realised! It's all about next week now and Cork v Waterford. Literally everything is now on the line



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭Seadin


    This defeat along with the Clare collapse suggests to me that we aren't as good as we think we are. We are bang average with a terrible defence. Limerick schooled is this time around and they will do it to us again I'm afraid. How can we bridge a 16 point hammering in the next fixture provided we beat Waterford?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I don't agree, if you are good enough you will play and be better than the opposition. There was nothing there to say to suggest that we will beat Limerick if we play them again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Well it's a long way to go to bridge a fifteen or sixteen point gap between these teams the next day! Beat Waterford and it will be Limerick again in the Munster final. We wouldn't be due to play them again until the all Ireland final if we got that far. Todays events will either drive this team on to prove a point this year, or it's going to crush them and we'll be put out of our misery by Limerick again or someone else.

    I just hope we won't end up ruing not failing the seal the deal against Clare last year. I do think Limerick were bit of a tired team last year and we failed to take advantage of it. Now the monster has reawakened again!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I hope Limerick folk don't take this the wrong way, but our county board are struggling to finance the intercounty teams and pay off the stadium debt. Limerick meanwhile have that endless supply of the JP money being pumped into them! It is what is is though unless some sort sort of financial benefactor for the GAA in Cork emerges from somewhere.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,725 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Frank Murphy is to Cork GAA what John Delaney was to Irish football

    Another 25 years before we be debt free. Yay.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Cork is a huge GAA county - is there any financial GAA group in Cork County board tapping up big business. Interest in Cork has been sky high the past year. Cork have produced good underage teams recently - did 2 of 3 of the Rebel Treble in 21. Where are those minors and U20s now. Surely those elite players get as good treatment/coaching as Limerick and other top teams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    I would haphazard a guess that the Cork backroom team would not be as large as Limerick's. John Kiely's backroom team is well stocked with all these fitness experts and nutritionists and such like. I've indeed been wondering myself why the likes of Will Buckley, Ben Cunningham and Michael Mullins haven't gotten more of a chance at senior level with Cork by now.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,531 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    yeah its a strange one , and only mullins saw game time in the league , surprised cunningham and buckley were never used in the league ,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭SophieLockhart


    That's a red herring. Limerick's results over the last 10 years have been quite poor in all other grades. The senior team is just a once-per-century combination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Hard to see any team comeback from this. In every part of the field we had issues and it's not like we were down to 14 either.

    I don't know how many injuries we had but something was off anyway. Anyway get over Waterford next Sunday will be a major test and only then can we think about Limerick again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    It was disappointing for sure but one more win and we will have got what we wanted out of the provincial campaign and that is a passage through to the next stage.

    So i actually think we can comeback and are still very much alive in this championship. If we do see Limerick again the challenge is there to prove that yesterday was an off day.

    I thought we were gone myself after the first two championship games last year and things turned around for us. The same can also happen here if this team is good enough.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,783 ✭✭✭893bet


    It’s far from a catastrophe. Getting out of Munster is all that matters as if you are good enough you will be good enough to make the All Ireland semi through the preliminary rounds then anyway.

    The extra games can work for you in getting match fitness and form up…or against you in terms of injuries/tiredness impact.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,970 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I agree, don't want to sound negative but if we beat Waterford next week and thats if, how do we bring back a 16 point hammering deficit against Limerick. Is it that we were so bad yesterday that there are plenty of areas to improve on or are Limerick just that good that we couldn't beat them no matter what?

    We will be given no chance against Limerick again in Gaelic grounds if we win at weekend. Cork players need to be told a few harsh realities that they are soft, cant hurl, are bottlers to the highest degree when it really matters , and Pat Ryan is poor manager when it matters most . That needs to get into the media too and needs to be said by someone in the media outside of Cork. Let it sting because Cork management or the players don't seem to think it. That won't change now unless we come back and beat Limerick and win All Ireland.

    Where the feck is Dalo now, will he go and hype Limerick up to the last like he did with Cork? Bet you he won't the stupid man that he is.



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