All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship 2025 (Munster And Leinster Championships,Liam McCarthy Cup)

I'm gonna say it, football championship has been better than the hurling so far.

Embraced new rules and you hear no shite about one province being superior to the rest to the same extent

Ya so just kill both. Great solution.

One class semi final and three good finals

No. But the reality of the two routes to qualify for the All Ireland series being utterly unbalanced shouldn't be ignored either. And the pretence that there are 6 teams strong enough for Leinster is doing nobody any good either.

One possibility is to have a Munster conference and a Leinster conference with either 4 or at most 5 teams in each. Realistically it should be 4 as only 8 teams are good enough. Play home and away with the top team winning the conference in name - and only qualify the top 2 teams to the All Ireland Semis to ensure jeopardy to the greatest extent possible until the last games. Bottom teams from each to play off with the loser playing the Joe McDonough for the right to stay up.

As a pure hurling man from a county where you rarely see a football after may i agree with you. Not many great hurling games yet. Even the close ones like cork clare were bad tempered scraps dominated by refereeing decisions.

Football looks the most open in years and we had 3 very good provincial finals

Anything but a Dublin win tomorrow puts Wexford out.

Given the scoring difference, even an Offaly win today wouldn't have changed the Offaly Antrim game being a relegation battle.

I see Johnny Kelly questioning no relegation in Munster a few days ago. If that's the road some leinster managers want to go down then it has to become a 5 team Leinster as you have to give Munster teams the same amount of chances to avoid relegation. So that's 1 less team in the championship. So get ready for his Offaly yoyoing between joe mc and leinster ever year and teams complaining they're not getting enough games against top teams.

The answer isn't to punish the good teams, it's for the leinster teams like Offaly to get their act together. And all I see is leinster teams getting worse. Wexford could be in a lot of trouble in a year or two.

They've been there awhile now

3,722 reported in Wexford Park today. For a championship match. That is so so bad.

Wexford played Offaly in a league game in early February last year and there was 3,664 at it. Only 58 less people.

This is a problem the GAA have to do something about. The championship is on its last legs outside a few Munster games, the semi finals and final. Even the preliminary qfs and qfs are dead.

If the Munster championship was abolished to make way for an open draw format, it wouldnt solve anything. Munster teams playing against Offaly, Wexford, Dublin and Antrim would be one sided hammerings 9 times out of 10.

The problem at the moment is that most of the the Leinster teams aren't at the required level, and the ones that are, Galway and Kilkenny, don't have enough supporters that can be bothered going to games.

The Munster championship is an incredible competition, the games are great occasions. Getting rid of it because Leinster teams are weak and Leinster supporters arent going to matches would be ridiculous.

Don't need to get rid of provincials just keep them as seperate completions instead of the league as outlined above. The proposal is not without flaws, one being how does lower league completion work with promotions etc but it's better than current situation imo

Weren't they the "best fans in the world" not so long ago.

The Munster Championship isn't going to change so the change needs to come from within Leinster. A possible solution would be to look at seeded draws, if you're an Antrim, Offaly, Westmeath etc you only play Kilkenny or Galway, not both. Obviously you lose a game but the current format isn't working and fans clearly don't like it either.

The appetite for hurling is there but the current format has been a massive failure. I don't know how you resolve it when there seems to be at least 2 teams struggling to put points on the board each year.

Tynan missing for tipp is huge. A very underrated player who gets through a mountain of work. Set up John mcgraths 1st goal last week with a lovely pass.

Wonder will last week take its toll on a few of the tipp older players?

Yeah pretty much this.