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  • #512
    Big Bag of Chips
    Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,636 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I'm not sure what you mean. And individual cases will vary. So I'm sure there are times where temporary sitebans have been threatened - and used - where needed.

    Permanent sitebans are also used where needed.



  • #513
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123421073#Comment_123421073

    I'm reasonably sure it would be a bad idea for me to elaborate.

    Glazers Out!



  • #514
    Irish Aris
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    My own experience as a mod is that

    -temporary sitebans are usually posters that have amassed a number of points in a short period of time in a variety of forums. I think this is a mechanism of vanilla that if you have a certain number of active warning points, a siteban kicks automatically. This means a number of pointed warnings within a couple of weeks. These are rather rare/infrequent.

    -permanent sitebans are mainly for spam (temu etc.), business advertising without proper office clearance, re-regs trying to bypass other bans, and abusive PMs. There are sitebans for posters that have a generally poor posting history across various forums, again though these are rather rare/infrequent.

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  • #515
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I thought vanilla might have done something to sort the temu newbie bot spammers but alas vanilla likes creating issues that rectifying

    I think seeing what ultimately happened to Hamachi, warning for talk of his family and then site banned, was disheartening and yes it is a shame to lose posters (not talking about the temu spamming bots)

    So if posters get so many warning points, do vanilla automatically apply a site ban? I thought warning points expired at a certain time

    It seems the most do come from CA/IMHO forum

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  • #516
    Irish Aris
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 7,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Aris


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123421211#Comment_123421211

    Warning points expire after 1 or 2 weeks, depending on how they were applied. As I said there is a very small number of posters that are warned repeatedly in a matter of days and the automated siteban kicks in.

    And no, most of these cases DO NOT come from CA, as we already have a forum ban mechanism, so repeated pointed warnings in a matter of days are rare.

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  • #517
    Big Bag of Chips
    Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,636 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    5 active warning points triggers a temporary siteban. As Irish Aris says, a warning in CA brings with it a CA ban so a person is unlikely to get sitebanned from the CA forum unless they go on a trolling or abusive spree and pick up a number of warnings together. 1 warning point expires after 1 week. 2 warning points expires after 2 weeks. 5 active warning points triggers a 5 week siteban. When the points expire the siteban expires.

    It has been discussed on thread, the poster mentioned wasn't sitebanned for speaking about his family. He had picked up multiple warnings in a relatively short time. Warnings are incremental. Before he picked up the final CA warning he was asked, numerous times, to not do something. He continued to do it, so the moderators were left with no choice but to apply a warning. I'm not going to discuss it again. He wasn't permanently sitebanned. I'd guess he'll rereg and be back, like most do.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • #518
    Big Bag of Chips
    Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,636 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    As an aside, the Temu spam is dealt with within minutes, sometimes seconds. It's not that big an issue really.



  • #519
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,850 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123421542#Comment_123421542

    There was an issue with reporting them yesterday, it wouldn’t allow the report due the text body being too long.

    This happened previously but was fixed at the time, weird that it happened again.

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  • #520
    Big Bag of Chips
    Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,636 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    To be honest they don't really need to be reported. We can see them from the front page. Every morning I scroll through 2 or 3 pages to catch anything from over night. I also look at all new registrations and ban them from there too.



  • #521
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123420726#Comment_123420726

    Some posters actively make the site a far worse experience, their presence by default causes constant problems in terms of moderation and drives other users off the site. On top of that they'd be given plenty of leeway before a permanent ban is pursued IMHO.

    Also they'd probably get away with reregistering I imagine but simply can't behave themselves.



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  • #522
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I wonder how much 'baiting' or goading is an issue, with posters who respond being reported and warned/ banned?



  • #523
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424450#Comment_123424450

    Ideally people shouldn't feed the trolls but it's dreadfully unfair to punish the trolled as much as, sometimes more than, the troll. The troll is the one who starts the aggro.

    In other news, Gubu seems to be gone.



  • #524
    Charlo30
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Charlo30


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123439355#Comment_123439355

    No surprise if it is gone. It had been on its backside for a long time. Any time I visited the place it seemed 80% of the posts were by 1 poster. Never a good sign.



  • #525
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123439382#Comment_123439382

    A maniac who kept on rambling about "the left" when talking about the right. Most recently he was actually referring to the critics of Kneecap as "the left" (seriously like) so perhaps that preposterousness is what led to the plug being pulled. 😊

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • #526
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,865 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123404537#Comment_123404537

    You didn't seem to want to 'hear both sides' when you explicitly refused to read a short article about the cost/benefit of cycling infrastructure.



  • #527
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,846 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123439382#Comment_123439382

    It was a cesspit of deranged incels. I wish it had last long enough to get sued though. That would have been very funny.

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  • #528
    Raichų
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123439796#Comment_123439796

    who would they sue and in all fairness considering the site was hacked together and running off a toaster by the experience I had when I had a nose around (didn’t last long before I condemned it to the “never visit this shite again” list) I’m going to guess the owner hadn’t two cent to rub together.



  • #529
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,846 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441011#Comment_123441011

    I meant someone suing them for something one of the regulars said.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #530
    Raichų
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭Raichų


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441028#Comment_123441028

    I get what you mean but again what would be the point (and can you actually sue someone for the statements of anonymous users on the internet?)



  • #531
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441087#Comment_123441087

    Yep, you can. Blame Ireland's libel laws who put the blame directly on the publisher/host rather than the actual poster who made the comments

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  • #532
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441144#Comment_123441144

    Ireland's defamation laws make no such distinction. Both the publisher and the poster are liable. Publishers tend to be the target more simply because they tend to have deeper pockets.

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  • #533
    nullzero
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    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441185#Comment_123441185

    The days of Web forums like this being on the radar of anyone with the means to initiate litigation are long gone. They're just not that into us.

    I know discussing cases before the courts isn't allowed here but has there ever been a citation of a boards.ie thread in court used by a defence council?

    Glazers Out!



  • #534
    suvigirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,493 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441224#Comment_123441224

    If someone defamed someone on boards, I would expect that both boards (having deeper pockets) and the individual would be sued.

    Not sure why or.how.any defence counsel would use a boards thread though



  • #535
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,021 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441224#Comment_123441224

    No idea, but I doubt it. However, that's at least in part because Boards will almost certainly remove anything defamatory on request - it's very rarely going to be worth taking them to court over something that was removed. Even the infamous MCD incident never came close to the inside of a courtroom

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  • #536
    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441087#Comment_123441087

    Of course you can. There was that whole thing between Boards and MCD for one example.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #537
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,085 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Tbf he made it when boards was in the hopeless migration. It just quickly decended into a boards hate blog when boards came back. When the admin tried to steer it away from being a boards hate blog it immediately died on its arsè.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441011#Comment_123441011


  • #538
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441254#Comment_123441254

    The point is that nobody is paying enough attention for that to happen to begin with.

    Even the big issue with MCD didn't get near the courts so this notion that people are monitoring boards for defamatory posts or discussions that would somehow prejudice a trial is just not based in reality.

    Glazers Out!



  • #539
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441993#Comment_123441993

    I hope Donald Trump isnt reading Boards.ie, specifically the Trump thread in Current Affairs.

    He might decide to take action if he were to read some of the comments.

    1000% tariffs or perhaps extradite some of the more vocal posters to Guantanamo Bay. A nice ocean view. Free bed and board.



  • #540
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭Damien360


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123441993#Comment_123441993

    In the old boards site, I got a mod admin message to remove post regarding a door company with a southern province name in their title. Join the dots ! They had sent a legal letter to boards. I gave proof to the mod via pm of the issue and the post remained. That company had searched the net for their name and up popped my post. So they do indeed chase down anything regarding their name.



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  • #541
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123442087#Comment_123442087

    I'm surprised they were bothered but at least someone has a story to reference.

    Glazers Out!



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