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Bees in fascia- how can I move them on?

  • 11-05-2025 11:20AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32


    Hi all. In last few days there have been a few bees around our fascia….I think they are bees but haven’t seen ones like these before. They seem to be building nests in the grooves in the fascia just above the windows. See photos below.

    What can I do to move them on? We have a bug hotel thing in the garden…they haven’t gone for it though! I tried spraying with peppermint oil but they aren’t put off. Where they are accessing on the outside leads to sunroom roof on inside and the bees could probably get inside the house from there . So can’t really leave them there.

    Would appreciate any helpful advice!!



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,090 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Get onto a beekeeper to remove, Swarms.ie. Don't attempt to remove them yourself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    It looks like solitary bees, rather than a swarm taking up residence. Can't tell 100% from your photos though. There's no point in having a bug hotel in your garden if you can't accept them in your fascia. If it's not honey bees, Apis mellifera mellifera, then it's not really much to actually worry about. Don't destroy nature just because you don't understand it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,697 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Yes, they are protected so don't try a DIY solution. There's loads of beekeepers out there who will gladly take them from you. It's a joy to watch them grab the Queen and pop her in a little box and then the rest just follow her in.

    Google bee keepers in your area and ring one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    These don't look like the bees you are talking about, so they won't have a queen. Honey bees aren't really endangered. Bee keepers will not be interested in trying to rescue solitary bees.

    Bee hotels are mostly just greenwashing. It's incongruous to have a bee hotel in your garden, then wanting to remove solitary bees for no real reason.

    What the OP has, looks more likely to be a red mason bee. Pretty much harmless, and should just be left in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 bomchikkawawa


    thanks for comments so far, I don’t know much about bees so appreciate all info. Regarding if they are solitary bees, all I’ve observed are 3-4 bees each creating their own “plug” in the grooves along same stretch of fascia, you will See 2 “plugs”in photo below. The 3rd plug is a few grooves further along the fascia

    I have young children who would be playing in this area so am concerned about that and also that the bees may easily access the interior of the house because of where they are nesting.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Those bees won't be bothered by your children at all, so are no threat to your children. It's a great opportunity to teach your children about bees.

    I've kept honey bees on the roof of my house, and rarely had problems. Honey bees are protective of their hive/colony, so can be a bit aggressive, if you get too close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Solitary bees, they'll disappear in a few days, zero threat to all, no ability to sting, the ones you see will be dead by the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Why do you have a bee hotel if you are concerned about bees because of your kids?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 bomchikkawawa


    perhaps I shouldn’t have mentioned the bee hotel . It’s irrelevant to the question I had around bees nesting in the structure of my house.
    thank you for all the helpful comments



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,461 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Sorry to hijack this thread, but is this bee or wasp related?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    I believe that is Bee. Wasps nests look sort of papery.

    I'm open to correction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    This an abandoned wasp nest. Wasps make paper nests which they abandon later in the autumn. They do not return into old nests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,461 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    After your replies I headed out to the garage to check it out again, and there was a solitary wasp climbing around it!

    Must have been having a nosey? Or thinking of squatting!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Or just came back to collect a few things. Ive done that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,461 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I got the bailiffs to him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    In that case, it might be a new nest, in the process of construction. Was the nest there in winter or is it new? If it is new, it is much safer to remove right now, before more wasps hatch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,461 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Yeah, it's definitely new. I would have noticed it before. Think that's why it's so small, it's only about the length of my thumb. I'd say that guy i saw was continuing construction?

    Anyway, is it safe just to whack it off the roof. It's so small I would doubt theres anything in it yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I have a bee hive in the facia that I can't get rid of for some 10 years.

    I approached a local bee keeper but he said it was to hard to access and I am stuck with it.

    Sometimes honey drains into the room and you can feel the heat of the hive if you put your hand on the ceiling.

    I am pretty wary going anywhere near them (if I go up a ladder to clean the windows or have to work on the flat roof!)

    Sometimes they come into the open window and die on the carpet overnight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    Are you sure it's the same hive that's survived a decade?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Same spot ,same entrance.

    Why, would such a long residence be unusual?

    There has been a time or two when I thought they were so quiet that they might have ben killed by the freezing weather but they came back after a month or so.

    Could a new hive have set up shop on top of an abandoned or dead one?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Yes. Old comb that is no longer used by bees will likely be eaten by wax moths, making space for bees to create fresh comb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭amandstu


    How long would that take? (until the old hive is rehabitable)

    Are wax moths plentiful and industrious?

    Would it only be the time around swarming when new hives would be set up?

    I did have the idea of kicking them out around that time of the year in the hope that they could find somewhere else among the trees more convenient for me (by drilling into the ceiling and blowing in smoke or smelly air ) but never got round to it.

    I did try one of those electronic mouse /insect repellents but to no effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭cobham


    Would the OP have wasps not bees?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Please, trying to move bees out of their established colony using smoke or even the special "bee gone" spray won't work. To remove bees, the colony needs to be opened, the queen is found and moved into a box located nearby, plus all the comb containing brood is removed (either to the box with the queen or thrown away). If there is brood in the hive, at least some bees will stay with it until they die. However, if the queen is in a box, and there is no comb left in the old place, bees will find the queen and will tell other bees to move into the box (this takes several hours to complete),

    The correct way to deal with bees, if you want to move them, is to get a beekeeper to cut them out (you can find someone though swarms.ie ), then clean all the remnants of honey and wax and then seal the cavity to prevent bees from coming back.

    The incorrect way is to kill bees with the wasp spray. It will kill the bees, but the remaining brood and bees will rot, the unripe honey will ferment and drip out of the comb. It will be a nasty, smelly mess.

    Wax moths are relatively slow, but they would chew all the wax in several months.

    Would it only be the time around swarming when new hives would be set up?

    Yes, bees create new colonies by swarming. Swarming mostly takes place from the middle of May to the end of July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,289 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I did approach a local beekeeper but I was told it (can't remember exactly:it was a good few years back)

    ....was told it was either a too dangerous position or else the flat roof would have to be opened,which seemed complicated.

    I just let it drop (although I did toy with the idea of getting them to "rehive" in the swarming season.

    I have been hoping a severe winter (or even a scorching summer) would get rid of them but they seem very resistant to the weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,792 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    Do ask swarms.ie . There are some madly brave beekeepers with nice equipment that may help you. Of course, some damage is inevitable when removing bees.

    One related video

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16d3FsGzGa/



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