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Dublin City to remove it's only Public Toilets

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Allinall


    There's no security minding any statue.

    You fell for the story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I wish. There are two stewards on €350 a day from 9am to 9pm watching the statue

    https://www.thejournal.ie/behaviours-at-molly-malone-statue-may-have-to-be-accepted-says-dublin-city-council-officer-6696549-May2025/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭Raichų




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,027 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    Ridiculous that a capital city with a booming tourist industry will now not have any public toilets. Yeah, tourists will likely use amenities in cafes, attractions, pubs and the likes. But surely the cost far out weighs the alternatives. Policing to ensure nobody is p1ssing on the street? No doubt that would cost more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭eastie17


    the pissing police?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,607 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    So what the costs? It's one of the basic services any council should be providing.

    Do it better rather than not doing it at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭cgcsb


    Ridiculous, but expected as DCC and central government both hate Dublin. You only need to look at the maintenance situation. James Joyce bridge hasn't been cleaned or maintained since it opened in 2003. It's completely covered in rubbish, trees growing out of the drains and most of lights and class are broken, have a look at the new paving on Liffey street, FILTHY. So a public toilet stands no chance, that required continuous maintenance, simply not in DCC's vocabulary.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    pathetic but unsurprising from DCC. Screw businesses for rates and provide bugger all in services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭plodder


    Two years ago the council sought expressions of interest for the provision of permanent toilets in the city centre. It has since been in discussions with two providers, the report states.

    “One of the service providers who specialise in automated units strongly advised against placing an unmanned/automated public toilet unit in the city centre, due to the significant risk associated with antisocial activity.”

    One thing I've noticed on the continent is good quality "manned" facilities which charge a euro or so, for usage. I presume the charge pays for the person on site, and ongoing maintenance.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Central Dublin was somewhat grotty when I was living in Dublin. This just sounds like a way to make it even worse.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Central Dublin was always a bit grotty. I was there recently and it has gotten much much worse.

    I would like to see the numbers on what it costs to run the 2 public toilets. I bet it probably pales in comparison to what sort of money is spent on other things.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm not sure how the high street is doing but this is just another small incentive for people to just veer clear of the city centre honestly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,352 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Do they have public toilets in other busy places in Ireland? Galway? Killarney? Or is just Dublin without them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Unfortunately since the bike shed, the cost of anything now comes under scrutiny even if it's to the detriment of everyone in the city.

    This is why I didn't like how much coverage the bike shed etc got. Yes these projects should be exposed and called out, but now any public body is frightened of their lives to be seen to be running up a big bill because the politicians are blaming the civil servants instead of taking any of the blame themselves.

    Running the public toilets cost a fiver per-person. That's f*ck all in the grand scheme of things for an important service.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,352 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I think they are completely understaffed is the thing. I'm currently in Spain and I'm sure you've all seen it, every morning teams of fellas are out spraying and cleaning. We probably need 50 times our current staff to get to that level in Spain. But that would never get the funding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,209 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Too many druggies etc hanging around whatever toilets there are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Running the public toilets cost a fiver per-person. That's f*ck all in the grand scheme of things for an important service.

    What has probably happened is they projected a million people will use the toilets, so it will make 5 million, but only 20,000 people have used it, so it's believed to be loss making.

    The reality is, the public toilets in most other cities don't make a profit. In fact the nominal fee you pay doesn't cover the upkeep of the toilets/pay for the attendant, but it helps it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭plodder


    It certainly wouldn't pay for all costs, but I'd say it would cover the wage cost of an attendant, which I think is important in busy urban sites. A poster above mentioned Spain. If they are talking about tourist areas on the coast then it's a bit different. Hefty property taxes pay for good services in those places, and the toilets typically don't need to be attended imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,553 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Two toilets would be a token gesture. Won't make a significant difference to the levels of public urination and defecation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,352 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Not true. The ones this thread is about are fine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,746 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Because they're attended, which I assume is the biggest cost involved in providing them, which is all DCC seem to care about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,586 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Its overstaffed all of the time. I pass by it multiple times per day.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Would something like this not be viable?

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It was in the Indo yesterday.

    The bosom bouncers are hardly standing there for free, are they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    You mean to suggest something that works successfully in other cities? Of course it won't work here /s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,436 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I'm in Cork and I don't think there has been public toilets in the city for quite a while now. It's a joke really. Cork City Council seems to adopt the same approach as Dublin in ensuring anything they do is about how it makes money or covers it's cost. A public toilet should be a mandatory public service.

    I'm 15 minutes from City Centre, and the local town down the road from me has a public toilet but Cork City doesn't. It's a joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,436 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,856 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Jack Daw




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