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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭scottser


    Some of the neighbours should dress up like those ICE lads and pay him a visit - that should soften his cough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,959 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    So there's this image on George Takei's F/B page. I double-checked the figures on the net and different sources confirmed the US to Canada exports as correct. One other source gave the two-way figure as US$ 600 Billion for the first three quarters of 2024. It's no wonder Carney gets afflicted by a sudden squint. Being a banker, he probably knows B/S when he hears it. It does make clear that Trump doesn't give a **** about telling the truth to the world and other world leaders when lies are so much easier.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,190 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    At this stage, it's pretty clear that Trump and Putin must have been twins separated at birth. Everything they say is a lie, always. Even when it doesn't have to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,959 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    The US Embassy in Stockholm has demanded any contractors dealing with them must end inclusion and diversity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    A banker's going to know a shifty businessman when he sees them. I'm sure he's met plenty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Indeed, getting thrown out of the White House is a very bad look for the people doing the throwing out…and this view was general across the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭yagan


    Today's announcement is supposedly about a trade deal with the UK. I wonder if they know about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    More performative, culture war, punching down, distractions while Trump and his cronies continue to make a killing from market manipulation, get appointed to cushy jobs they aren't qualified for, and drag the US further down the path to fascism and infamy....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭Field east


    I was looking at some US presenter on some TV station last night talking about that Kearney Trump meeting and it was ALL ABOUT the ‘mauling ‘ that Trump gave Carney !!!!!. For example, She interpreted Carneys facial expressions as ‘ he was confused’ ; adid not know what to say’ ; ‘was caught on the hop’ ; ‘ almost failed to get a word in edgeways’ etc, etc, etc, etc. I cannot come up with the correct combination of words to describe the angles taken but for the moment it was AWAY BEYOND BS.
    She/ her station must be well paid by Trump/ his supporters



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,959 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭Field east


    Carnegie showed up what ‘happens when you stand up to a BULLY. He was so composed, his facial expressions throughout said a lot, he let Trump do his usual rant and his one comment about ‘ real estate’ was a master stroke. It was enough , IMO, to totally counteract all of Trumps Rantings. Trump was like a lap dog in his responses. Eg ‘ Never day never ‘ and with a nervous /cheapish smile



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    It would have been funny if after Trump said "never say never" Carney made an offer to buy the White House!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I believe rhat Trump sees everything as a commodity that can be sold and presumably he'd be happy to move formalities to Mar a Lago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'd like to think he has a better track record there than Deutsche Bank.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭pad406


    Or a reverse take over, US becomes part of Canada. Not that the Canadians would likely want that, but it would have been funny watching Trump going apoplectic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,478 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    He clearly does. Its part of his malignant narcissism.

    He has no cognitive appreciation for tradition or style or class or decency or heritage, or anything like that.

    He lives in a transactional world. Obsessively driven by the need to have a win/lose outcome. It's why he has turned the Oval Office into a nasty 1970s Vegas lounge, and he's the local mafia under-boss running the joint. In his mind, it should both impress and intimidate, to improve his dominant position in the deal, whereas any normal thinking person views it as pathetic vandalism.

    And its all why I think we will see this trade deal with GB being decried in Britain, as the details of it begin to emerge.

    Starmer comes to the table in a position of weakness anyway. Britain, in self-imposed isolation, is circling the economic porcelain bowl, and so he must shore up what manufacturing they do have left, albeit owned from overseas, like Jaguar Land Rover, Mini, Rolls and Bentley, Vauxhall etc.

    The British farmers already he's effed them on inheritance tax, but wait till they see the agricultural feces that will land on British supermarket shelves from America, undercutting them both in price and in standards.

    Its going to be a terrible deal for Britain so they can export some rubbish Range Rovers. And its the sort of deal that the EU won't want, and won't need to make.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,697 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Firstly, Starmer hasn't effed over anyone. He's applied a means test to the winter heating allowance and closed an inheritance tax loophole in relation to rich estates. That's why you've fake farmers like Jeremy Clarkson up in arms. They're actively trying to f*ck over small farmers and now they're wailing because their tax dodge is at an end.

    Secondly, Starmer isn't going to sign a terrible deal. It would be incredibly toxic both because of the concessions and because of how much most people despise the current American president.

    I think people are overstating Britain's problems. I'm speaking to someone about a job in the Netherlands and I'm thinking I'd prefer to just stay here.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭pad406


    but wait till they see the agricultural feces that will land on British supermarket shelves from America, undercutting them both in price and in standards.

    Its going to be a terrible deal for Britain so they can export some rubbish Range Rovers. And its the sort of deal that the EU won't want, and won't need to make

    That's what Sky News reporting at the moment:

    Sky News business correspondent Paul Kelso understands the UK has agreed to give some concessions on food and agriculture imports from the United States to secure an easing of export tariffs for the car industry.

    Will have to wait till this afternoon to find out the details, but my inclination is that it will be a bad deal for the UK. Trump really needs a big win announced



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd also suspect what gets announced today amounts to the beginning of negotiations, would take years to come to an agreement on everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,622 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd almost be inclined to think the opposite. I'd say whatever gets announced will include something Trump can point to as a win, says he'll lift all the tariffs on the UK, and then say he's willing to do deals with other countries too. And then it goes back to mostly business as usual.

    He could be treating the UK as a signal to all others; give the US something that looks enough like a win so Trump can lift the tariffs, restore stability to the stock market, and make himself look like a master negotiator. No matter what the arrangement is, Trump and his acolytes will just inflate the numbers or importance of it and make it out to be the greatest deal ever in the history of the world.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    The UK has been looking for a deal with the US for some time now - might this be announced as a domestic win for Starmer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭poop emoji


    From what little is known calling this a “deal” is stretching the word quite a bit

    I’m struggling to see why actually concrete has UK given up and and will receive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,728 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I have plenty of issues with Kier Starmer and his version of the "Labour" Party, but on the issue of inheritance tax for "farmers", who he's really hitting there are land owners and not farmers. And it's land owners that own a considerable size of land into the bargain, meaning that, effectively, it's worth £3,000,000 before anyone has to pay anything. Who he's hitting with the new taxes are rich people who horde away money in farm land, while they get other poor saps to actually work the land, and they've been getting away with that for decades since it was brought in by Thatcher.

    No problem, whatsoever, with that lot having to pay their fair share of taxes into the country and even then, it's just 20% as opposed to 40% for others.

    The vast majority of actual farmers will be exempt.

    The way farming works in Britain is very different to how it works over here. Most farmers in Britain (especially England) don't actually own the land they work on, as opposed to most Irish farmers who do. They're essentially labourers who toil the land for land owners. One third of Britain's 60 million acres of farm land is owned by the aristocracy and a significant area is owned by corporations and conglomerates. About 5% of farm land is owned by individual farmers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭pad406


    The possible difference with the UK though is that there have been on-going discussions with the US since Brexit, so it 'could' be way more advanced than other countries which likely only started since liberation letsscrewtheeconomy day



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,697 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Depends on what's in it. I doubt most British people would see it as that much of a win. Although, maybe we can get Trump to visit Balmoral.

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    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,478 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'm not saying he has or he hasn't. I'm saying the Farmer's protests are based on the premise that he has, from their perspective.

    Britain's economic fortunes are not really a matter for debate though. Their budget deficit and terrible growth over the last 10 years are a matter of fact.

    And so, Britain is in a position of weakness and somewhat desperation as they went into this negotiation with Washington.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,884 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


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    My groundsman did warn him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,040 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Meanwhile, the Saudi policy of women barely allowed to do anything ever has been given full approval.



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