Kneecap - New Footage *Read OP for Mod Warning*

An interesting thought experiment would be to ascertain when this bloody mess started, because it was most certainly not Oct 7th.

The poster I was trying to engage with has not once denounced any Israeli action as far as I can see.

I have denounced the October 7th attacks, and I also can comprehend why they happened.

Yeah. It's right up there with, "I apologise if you found my comments offensive."

Bleurgh 🤢🤮

There's no denouncement there.

Very little evidence has emerged that women were raped on October 7th:

"In June 2024, The Times published a detailed investigative report concluding that Israel's claims about the scale and the formally sanctioned, systematic nature of sexual assaults did not stand up to scrutiny.

As of January 2025, the former head of the security cases division in Israel's Southern District prosecutor's office said that no case was being filed due to a lack of evidence and complainants."

i.e. Israel and their cheerleaders were lying and fabricating as per usual. Rapes might have happened but investigators are struggling to find any clear evidence of it.

Rubbish. From the U.N report:

“It was a catalogue of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture and other horrors,” including sexual violence, she stated.  The team also found convincing information that sexual violence was committed against hostages, and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may still be ongoing against those in captivity. 

The Racist band Kneecap were photographed grinning while congratulating Hamas in the Palestinian struggle the day after the Oct 7th 2023 massacre, in which Hamas killed over a thousand, tortured, burnt, kidnapped 250 etc.

At least this post does definitively put an end to "no one actually supports Hamas" and "supporting Gaza doesn't mean supporting Hamas".

Not many have been that honest.

As shown by the film clip from the Kneecap concert at London’s Kentish Town Forum in November 2024, when a Kneecap band member was heard shouting: “Up Hamas, up Hezbollah.” Both groups are proscribed terrorist organisations in the UK, and inviting support for them is a criminal offence.

Supporting Hamas or IDF is the same for me. Both terrorist organisations.

Someone else put it better than me.

Gaza got to govern themselves with whatever government they want, in this case, Hamas. Israel pulled out of gaza a long time ago (2005?).

Gaza constantly shoots rockets into Israel, for decades, and Hamas invades in Oct 2023, kidnapping 250, killing over 1000 etc. What would you do if someone kept lobbing rockets into your house, and you have absolutely nothing to do with that someone on a daily basis?

On october 7th, unprovoked attack with an evil bent. Hamas knows that this is a tactical and strategic stupid move since they know they can’t possibly beat Israel. They bet on getting sympathy with the soft brains of this world and they get it!

Israel has no choice but to exterminate Hamas, since doing nothing would only encourage more attacks. literally no other option available.

So, which one is worse? hmmm At least the IDF are the armed forces of a democratically elected government, and wear uniforms, and are from a society which tolerates minorities within Israel.

Hamas are terrorists who do not wear uniforms and who do not tolerate minorities, like gays, never mind Jews. If Kneecap were at that concert they would have been butchered too.

Do you understand what Israel are doing? We know from this Island's history, that all Israel are doing are making more and more Palestinian martyrs, which will kill many Israeli's.

Israel has no intention of peace. They want to wipe Palestine off the map.

Yes i know what they are doing. Im still not justifying Oct 7th .Im not completely evil. Seems like you are

There's basically 4 solutions:

1: Israel wipes Palestine off the face of the Earth. At this moment in time, I think this is the likeliest outcome, and will be sadly celebrated by many on here.

2: The war goes on forever, with more and more outside people joining the Palestinian side as generally speaking, the majority of the world doesn't usually side with an invading force.

3: Palestine wipes Israel off the face of the Earth. Never going to happen, regardless how much Hamas wants it to happen.

4: A two state solution. The one favoured by me, and most Palestinian supporters. Unfortunately, it won't happen as Israel keeps expanding it's territory (Now they plan to conquer all of Gaza, and push the remaining Palestinians south). It would also require an independent policing force, which also won't happen as any pushback against Israel, gets you labelled anti-semetic, and you must obviously hate all jews and want them dead.)

Kneecap have consistently said they favour a two state solution, but most people here would believe that they want all jews exterminated, or some such hyperbolic nonsense, when they say no such things.

Where to start with this one ?

Yes Gaza should govern itself but unfortunately Hamas have not relinquished power since 2006 ,blaming the current population for this is ridiculous when less then 10% of them were even in a position to vote for them in 2006. You can obviously say they should rebel but that's easier said then done.

Gaza fires nothing into Isreal , Hamas fire rockets into Israel . Conflating the two infers everyone there is guilty.

You along with many people in the media call Oct 7th an unprovoked attack or that there was some sort of ceasefire in place. A simple Google search will show that airstrikes occurred on Gaza or the West bank every month that year prior to Oct. The IDF claim that they were targeting Hamas , which is fine, but don't call it unprovoked or a ceasefire.

https://www.ochaopt.org/poc/5-18-september-2023

January until September 2003 the IDF killed 181 Palestinians including 38 children.

I'm curious as to what you want Palestinians to do ? Do nothing ( West Bank ) = House gets taken by a settler. Fight back ( Gaza ) = Whole apartment block blown up including innocent families.